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Author Topic:   Can the creationist model explain the data?
ringo
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Message 50 of 67 (811824)
06-12-2017 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by CRR
06-12-2017 6:16 AM


Re: Fruit Flies
CRR writes:
That's all you need to know to conclude that "white eye" is a deleterious defect. If it worked "as well" then it would not be eliminated from wild populations.
You can't predict what evolution 'would do" like that. If lions eat the slow zebras then everything slower than a zebra "would" be extinct because the lions would eat them first. The facts don't support the conclusion.

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ringo
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Message 55 of 67 (811924)
06-13-2017 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by CRR
06-13-2017 3:35 AM


Re: Fruit Flies
CRR writes:
It is almost inevitable that the white eye mutation has occurred in the wild and it has not persisted so we can conclude that it is a deleterious mutation.
It's premature to conclude that white-eyed fruit flies don't exit in the wild BECAUSE of the mutation. Have you considered any other possible explanations?
CRR writes:
I suppose we could release white eye fruit flies into the wild and see what happens...
Why don't creationists ever DO that? Where are the experiments?
CRR writes:
If we can't predict what evolution 'would do", then evolution has no predictive capacity;
That isn't what predictive capacity is about. Evolution predicts, for example that dark moths on dark trees have a better chance of surviving to pass on the dark trait - and that is what we observe.
What you can NOT do is predict that there shoulda/woulda/coulda been white-eyed fruit flies and if there aren't then evolution is wrong.

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