The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right

I can't speak for all the mainstream news and I don't know what gets counted as "downplaying", but this morning the New York Times had an article on the front page that made it clear that Hodgkinson supported left wing causes and was a Bernie Sanders supporter. Furious at Trump and Unhappy With ‘Way Things Were Going’

I don't call stuff hate speech. And I'm not sure what you mean by "much"...Not all of the anti-Trump speech counts as what the left calls hate speech, but I say the majority of it does.

To me much means more than half. I strongly disagree with your estimate.

E.g. I think Trump's bloody head is hate speech but protected.I also think this is hate speech: (Neo-Nazi Magazine to Feature Obama Assassination Cover | Southern Poverty Law Center)

I think it's worth setting out a useful working definition of hate speech:Hate speech - WikipediaAs with references to totalitarianism, accusing people of hate speech when they criticise an individual's behaviour or actions, serves to diminish the harm of true hate speech.It is a reasonable position to attack the nature of some of the criticisms of Trump (and Obama and many many others) as criticism which is beyond the pale, but let's reserve hate speech as the expression which is properly used to describe the language bigots use to stir up hatred against groups of people, based on their colour, gender, nationality, sexuality etc.

No Nukes besides of course accusing me as usual is blessedly otherwise treating me as if I don't exist -- too bad he can't refrain from acknowledging my existence in an indirect slam.Anyway your points are well taken and my comments are more to NN, whom I will not address directly either.I'm glad to hear that there is SOME objection on the Left to the shooter but what I was talking about was the screaming silence at EvC about Leftist violence recently. Lots of comments and accusations against Trump and utter silence when it's the Leftists.And I used "hate speech" which is a term I usually avoid, because it points up the hypocrisy of the Left who use it all the time against the Right without any warrant whatever.

There's a difference between a loon with a rifle and a loon with nuclear weapons - and that difference has nothing to do with left or right.

Again, the attacks on Obama pale in comparison to the attacks on Trump which aren't just coming from individual partisans but from the people who are supposed to represent all of us or be neutral such as the media. There is certainly enough hate on both sides of the issues these days in this violently polarized country, but I don't think we've ever before seen the concerted organized attacks on a President by the media and other powers that be that we are seeing today.Every day I am assaulted by headlines and commentary by comedians and people at EvC who don't seem to care what they say against ME because I supported Trump as they attack all supporters of Trump. Every single day. And the Left in general DOES justify this stuff or ignore it, showing basic agreement with it.Again, EvC is silent when the Left is violent. Haven't seen a thing against Madonna's criminal comments or the violent "protests" we've seen since the election, or the comedian who held up Trump's head or this recent shooter until I posted on it, or any of that.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

So you justify not protesting an attempted murder because you hate Trump just like the would be murderer did. You have the usual idiotic fantasy about Trump, the sort of idiotic infantile accusation that very well could cause civil war. The Left is perniciously and dangerously stupid these days.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I could not care less what the official definition of hate speech is since the Left has lost its right to determine such things by attacking the ordinary citizens who voted for Trump and not protesting when they are attacked. That IS hate speech. The racist hatred of whites by the Left IS hate speech. The jokes against Trump supporters ARE hate speech. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't hate Trump. I recognize him as a narcissist, a megalomaniac and a compulsive liar.I don't protest every attempted murder. I don't even consider mass shootings in the US as news. It's just dog bites man.

Actually that headline is typical Leftist whitewash: Furious at Trump and Unhappy With ‘Way Things Were Going’ It's factual so the fact that it expresses the shooter's point of view which subtly implies it was justified doesn't have to be noticed, does it? I haven't read the story but I'd bet that there's a lot of such ambiguous stuff in that too.

So if you hate Trump, and you hate Republicans, and you give speech that incites violence against them, well that doesn't count as True Hate Speech^TM... because why?Is it because "republican" isn't a protected class? Really?How does that diminish the harm of True Hate Speech^TM?They hate people. They're speaking. They're inciting violence. But calling that hate speech somehow diminishes real hate speech? Edited by New Cat's Eye, : typo

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I could not care less what the official definition of hate speech is since the Left has lost its right to determine such things by attacking the ordinary citizens who voted for Trump and not protesting when they are attacked

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I note that this comes from somebody who tried to defend Ann Coulter.

All you've done is recite the false party line which apparently you believe. Trump has done nothing unconstitutional or illegal, that's ALL drummed up by the Left. Just part of the plot I'm talking about. Your accusations of Trump are the usual trumped up lies, just hate speech, and yes I'll keep using that term because it throws it all back at the Left where it belongs. Trump has done nothing other Presidents haven't done. But when Trump does the same thing the Left suddenly discovers it's illegal. You guys are dupes and pernicious dupes.