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Author Topic:   The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right
Faith 
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Message 681 of 960 (812384)
06-16-2017 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 680 by Genomicus
06-16-2017 9:47 AM


Re: more of the same
Neither Trump nor his supporters are for restricting freedoms of anybody. That is one of the biggest lies the left has been laying on him.
As for "undocumented" aliens I'm sure there are more or less humane ways of dealing with the problem and I'm sure all us Trump supporters are for the most humane ways. But it IS a problem which the Left seems determined to deny. Illegal entry into the US IS illegal, and the Leftist opposition to doing something about it borders on treason.
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Message 683 of 960 (812391)
06-16-2017 10:41 AM
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06-16-2017 10:04 AM


Re: more of the same
Neither Trump nor his supporters are for restricting freedoms of anybody.
They are all for restricting the freedoms of undocumented immigrants.
OK, excuse my inexactness. All sane societies restrict the freedoms of people who commit criminal acts. Illegal entry into the country is illegal.. They have no right to be here and though we are to treat them as humanely as possible we have the right to deport them, and especially those among them who have committed crimes while here, and those should be the first to go. I'm for considering all kinds of mitigating circumstances and making allowances where warranted, but this idea that people who did not enter the country legally have some kind of right to be here is some sort of mental aberration and probably treason.
As for "undocumented" aliens I'm sure there are more or less humane ways of dealing with the problem and I'm sure all us Trump supporters are for the most humane ways.
I mean not all of you Trump supporters. I was having a discussion on Quora the other day where this Trump supporter proposed rounding up all undocumented immigrants and forcing them to do free labor.
Perhaps that would be a fair solution, something to think about.
You fundamentally do not understand the degree of vitriol that undocumented immigrants face on the regular from many Trump supporters.
Perhaps I don't but the situation of having people given rights they don't deserve forced on the rest of us is probably too much for some to take. Why is the Left always soft on lawbreakers and against the rights of rightful citizens? Where is your head? How do you justify such inequity? Nevertheless, a humane SOLUTION to the problem would no doubt be welcomed by even the Trump supporters who otherwise get righteously angry at how they are being mistreated. There is something seriously wrong with the liberal/leftist mindset. Do you have the clarity of thought to see the problem here? Can you explain this irrationality on your part?
But it IS a problem which the Left seems determined to deny.
What is the problem, exactly, of granting a pathway to citizenship to someone who was brought here at 2 years of age and has been in the United States ever since and has been thoroughly "Americanized"?
Aw, pick the most heartwrenching case you can find and ignore the big picture, of course. The problem is that it was never dealt with years ago. I'm sure this sort of case requires special consideration which I've said I'm for, although the illegality of the original act is something I'd rather not let the Left sweep under the rug even in these cases. All sorts of delicate situations should be dealt with delicately where possible. But you need to get your head out of the clouds and recognize that there is a real problem here that your Leftist viewpoint is whitewashing.
ry into the US IS illegal, and the Leftist opposition to doing something about it borders on treason.
And the rightist opposition to understanding the plight of undocumented immigrants and what systems create borders on inhumanity.
It's the Leftist support of illegality that has caused the problems you are trying to blame on the right. You need to acknowledge the rights of those average ordinary American citizens who are rightfully angry at your tolerance of lawbreakers -- their "inhumanity" is really just righteous anger and it's because of the insanity of the Left that it exists at all. The amazing thing is that it's as restrained as it is.
Could care less about treason if it means doing something that's actually humane and fosters a respect for human dignity.
You are of course very selective about what constitutes human dignity. You could not care less about the rights of the legal American citizens or THEIR dignity. Of course you don't care about treason, you don't care about anything except your narrow Leftist definition of humanity which for some reason always favors lawbreakers over the righteous. Any thoughts about why that is? Twisted Marxist indoctrination in the halls of academe would be where I would start to track it down.
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Message 688 of 960 (812416)
06-16-2017 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 687 by ringo
06-16-2017 11:54 AM


Re: Hate speech
Anybody who doesn't see that the current attacks on Trump are absolutely unprecedented in American history is blind as a bat.

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Message 691 of 960 (812423)
06-16-2017 12:13 PM
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06-16-2017 12:07 PM


Re: Hate speech
Blind as a mole? Blind as a ...?

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Message 694 of 960 (812431)
06-16-2017 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 689 by Chiroptera
06-16-2017 12:05 PM


Re: Boy, Democrats and Republicans sure do dislike each other!
The political polarization in this country is something fierce these days. If there was still a frontier I'd head for it, but unfortunately there's no place to go. If the country could be divided between Left and Right and we all moved to our designated area I'd go for it. If that would make for peace I'd go for it I mean, but probably nothing is possible, nothing would work.

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Message 696 of 960 (812439)
06-16-2017 1:14 PM
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06-16-2017 1:03 PM


Re: Hate speech
I already answered that. The attacks on Trump are unprecedented.

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Faith 
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Message 698 of 960 (812441)
06-16-2017 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 697 by ringo
06-16-2017 1:15 PM


Re: Hate speech
We're talking about American history and the attacks on Trump are unprecedented in American history.

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Faith 
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Message 700 of 960 (812445)
06-16-2017 1:25 PM
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06-16-2017 1:23 PM


Re: Hate speech
No, if you don't see it you're blind as a bat. Nothing I could possibly say would make you see it and I don't need the grief, thanks anyway.

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Faith 
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Message 707 of 960 (812481)
06-16-2017 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 701 by Genomicus
06-16-2017 2:41 PM


Re: more of the same
Your evil hateful destructive way of thinking which is just Marxist invented class warfare designed to keep us polarized is so sad I want all the more to split this country. Pick where you want to live, I don't care, I just don't want to live in the same country with the likes of you. Even the same world. This is no longer America this might as well be Marxitopia. Or put me in the gulag, hey? That's what always comes of your kind of thinking.
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Faith 
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Message 710 of 960 (812499)
06-16-2017 10:32 PM
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06-16-2017 10:30 PM


Re: more of the same
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Faith 
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Message 711 of 960 (812500)
06-16-2017 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 709 by Genomicus
06-16-2017 10:30 PM


Re: more of the same
Your evil hateful destructive way of thinking...
Hey, I'm not the one who sees 11+ million people as untermenschen.
No, you're the one who sees innocent law-abiding American citizens as Nazis and racists and oppressors, and falsely accuses me of treating people who have committed illegal acts as inferiors. Evil slander from a brainwashed Marxist ideologue, the cause of all the divisiveness and race baiting going on these days.
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Faith 
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Message 714 of 960 (812510)
06-17-2017 3:59 AM
Reply to: Message 712 by Genomicus
06-17-2017 12:06 AM


Re: more of the same
I said nothing about enslavement. You lying anti-American brainwashed Marxist ideologue. You said somebody proposed unpaid labor as a way to get compensation for illegals entering the country. I thought that worth thinking about. It would be like community service. You lying anti-American brainwashed pigheaded Marxist propagandist. Oh wow you even support Antifa as well as the violent BLM. You Marxist creeps really do want a civil war don't you? I personally think you've said enough here to deserve to be arrested yourself.
For treason and advocating violence. The whole Left these days is a bunch of treasonous violent haters of everything good.
You race baiting creep. This is about illegality and not racism. That's Marxist lying propaganda, pure evil. I'm sure most bank robbers and drug dealers and other thieves and some murderers too "only want to give their loved ones a better life" you miserable mentally deranged Marxist.
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Faith 
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Message 717 of 960 (812529)
06-17-2017 8:30 AM
Reply to: Message 716 by JonF
06-17-2017 8:19 AM


Your point is?
My objection is to evil IDEOLOGIES, not people going off on rants, and although I also despise the politics of Obama, Pelosi and Reid I'd rather keep the focus on the politics and not Obama, Pelosi and Reid as far as possible and I know it's hard to keep that focus, I lose it myself. But I knew nothing about Ted Nugent until the last couple of days when I finally looked him up. So he hates the Left, so do I, the Left is an evil lying destructive dogma that is ruining America.
But I heard that Nugent is going to try to tone down his rhetoric. I'm not up on his rhetoric but perhaps that would be a good thing.
Do you have a point?
Marxist labeling of people as racists and reducing questions of law and government to personal racism is lying propaganda and utterly utterly evil.

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Faith 
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Message 718 of 960 (812536)
06-17-2017 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 716 by JonF
06-17-2017 8:19 AM


Nugent tells it like it is
Hey, I went and listened to that Jones-Nugent exchange at Infowars and I like it. The tone in person isn't as inflammatory as the printed version for some reason. Two patriots talking about how the Left is bringing down the country and trying to motivate other patriots to get more involved.
It's good enough to embed:
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Message 721 of 960 (812541)
06-17-2017 11:03 AM
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06-17-2017 10:40 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Lies? Name one.

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