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Author Topic:   The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right
JonF
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Message 706 of 960 (812464)
06-16-2017 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 705 by Coyote
06-16-2017 3:42 PM


Re: Hmmmm
Damned tasteless. Over the top. Widely distributed?
No comment on Nugent & Jones?

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JonF
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Message 715 of 960 (812525)
06-17-2017 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 708 by Coyote
06-16-2017 7:35 PM


Re: Hmmmm
You're right, it's hard to tell the difference.
The really sad part is that the parody is true.

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JonF
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Message 716 of 960 (812526)
06-17-2017 8:19 AM
Reply to: Message 704 by JonF
06-16-2017 3:18 PM


Hey Faith, I just demonstrated precedent for the types of viciousness that you claim are being directed against Trump and are unprecedented.
Are you going to admit there is precedent set by the right wing?
quote:
December 3, 2015:
quote:
I don’t care why he’s foaming at the mouth, I don’t care how he got rabies, he’s rabid, get rid of the damn dog, he said. When Old Yeller brings us slippers, give him a biscuit; when he foams at the mouth, you shoot him between the eyes. Any questions? You got to do it. America, you got to cleanse this country. No, I’m not talking about shooting anybody. I’m talking about dealing with an outrageous condition that is painful and traumatic and frustrating, but if you don’t face the beast, you’re dead, and that’s what’s going on.
He continued: I don’t really care why Barack Obama is the enemy of America. I don’t really care why Nancy Pelosi is a braindead, vicious freak. I don’t care how Sheila Jackson Lee is allowed to stay in power.
Or why Harry Reid is a piece of crap, host Alex Jones interjected.
Nugent went on to claim that liberal Democrats are subhuman freaks, while Jones wondered how America could be ruled by such gibbering weirdos. If I didn’t laugh I’d probably throw up blood, it’s so insane, Nugent said.
Nugent concluded that liberals want everyone bending over and taking it in the ass, and can only be thwarted by great leaders like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, Jones hoped that the establishment would eventually realize that Obama is trying to set up a caliphate and overthrowing this country: Do they really want to put bags on our women’s heads?
Ted Nugent: Time To ‘Cleanse This Country’ Of Liberals Who Want Everyone ‘Bending Over And Taking It In The Ass
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 719 of 960 (812538)
06-17-2017 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 717 by Faith
06-17-2017 8:30 AM


Your point is?
My point is what I wrote. You claimed the attacks on Trump were unprecedented. You refused to provide examples. I provided precedent and can provide plenty more.
Do yuo admit that the attacks on Trump are not unprecedented?

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JonF
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Message 720 of 960 (812539)
06-17-2017 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 718 by Faith
06-17-2017 10:09 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
I listened to it too. It's just as inflammatory as the printed version, and chock full o' lies.

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JonF
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Message 723 of 960 (812554)
06-17-2017 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 721 by Faith
06-17-2017 11:03 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Easy.
First admit that your claim that what's happening is unprecedented is wrong.

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JonF
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Message 726 of 960 (812565)
06-17-2017 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 724 by Faith
06-17-2017 12:55 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
No, Jones and Nugent are not the media
Jones is most definitely the media. He has 29 million views per month (23.4 from the US), he claims to be a news site, he has White House press credentials.
Ted Nugent is certainly equivalent to a Hollywood star. He's a well-known rock start who's had number 1 hits.
BTW Nugent has called for Obama's assassination. That kind of attack on Trump is precedented.
quote:
As the Daily Beast chronicled, Nugent discussed shooting Harry Reid during the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting in 2015. In January 2016, he called for both Obama and Clinton to be tried for treason & hung. Nugent once called Clinton a worthless bitch and called for her to ride one of these [guns] into the sunset. He told Obama to suck on my machine gun.

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JonF
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Message 731 of 960 (812611)
06-18-2017 8:46 AM
Reply to: Message 727 by Faith
06-17-2017 4:08 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
ugent may be a rock star but his politics aren't aired like the Leftist stars' are
You're sh****ng me! He's very vocal and widely quoted by right wing nutcases.
quote:
"I think that Barack Hussein Obama should be put in jail. It is clear that Barack Hussein Obama is a communist. Mao Tse Tung lives and his name is Barack Hussein Obama. This country should be ashamed. I wanna throw up"
About Hillary Clinton: "You probably can't use the term `toxic cunt' in your magazine, but that's what she is. Her very existence insults the spirit of individualism in this country. This bitch is nothing but a two-bit whore for Fidel Castro."
"Obama, he's a piece of shit, and I told him to suck on my machine gun. Let's hear it for him. And then I was in New York. I said, "Hey, Hillary, you might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch. Since I'm in California, how about [Senator] Barbara Boxer [D-CA], she might want to suck on my machine gun. And [Senator] Dianne Feinstein [D-CA], ride one of these you worthless whore. Any questions?"
Nugent compared Obama to a Nazi who kills his Jewish neighbors, stating the president is like "a German in 1938 pretending to respect the Jews and then going home and putting on his brown shirt and forcing his neighbors onto a train to be burned to death."
Jones has a lot more viewers than most of the MSM but he's nevertheless confined to public oblivion
No he's a right wing media star with Whiter House credentials.
In any case, you have to go LOOK for them, you will not see them all the time as you do the Leftists, on just any MSM outlet.
BS. They're both quoted in the media you listed above.
I'm sure Nugent's NRA call to shoot Harry Reid was a joke --it made me laugh anyway
Of course you did. You would think that's funny.
It wasn't a joke. See above.
not to mention all the other suggestions of murdering Trump that I keep hearing about.
Name some. (I've already condemned Gifford).
he calls for Obama and Clinton to be tried for treason and hung.
He calls for Obama and Hillary to be hanged. (Meat is hung, people are hanged. Just another example of his nastiness.) No mention of a trial. As is usual in all such pronouncements from the right wing. loonies.
And you still haven't answered the question: What lies?
Obama's a Muslim in league with / leading ISIS.
Obama's not a natural-born US citizen.
Obama's after your guns.
Obama's going to repeal the Constitution and Declaration of Independence and institute a Communnist government.
And my personal favorite; Jade Helm. Obama's going to take over all the Southwest states with the aid the Chinese army which is hidden in caves and tunnels under closed Walmarts in Texas. Governor Abbot activated the State Guard to prevent this.

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JonF
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Message 734 of 960 (812661)
06-19-2017 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 732 by Faith
06-18-2017 8:52 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
I never heard of Nugent until the last few days and it doesn't matter if RIGHTWING NUTCASES quote him, he's nevertheless exactly as I said, confined to the right wing and not one of the people who gets quoted by the MSM. Because he's right wing. And because the right wing is labeled nuitcases
The reason i know about him is that he, and Alex Jones, are often quoted in the MSM.
Hard-Rocking Ted Nugent Cranks Up the Controversy - The New York Times
The New York Times > Arts > Interactive Feature > The Nuge in His Own Words
G.O.P. Aims for a Calmer Face, Except Maybe for Ted Nugent - The New York Times
I quoted your own source about Obama and Hillary which says TRIED FOR TREASON AND HUNG. Sheesh
whoops, you're right. sorry.
Wh
What about 'suck on my machine gun'? Would that be before or after a trial?
Too bad Nugent uses crude language, but of course the Left has to make an issue of such secondary things while covering up the same on their own side.
You still have refused to provide any examples. Or any condemnation of Nugent and Jones for the content of their messages.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 736 of 960 (812665)
06-19-2017 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 735 by Faith
06-19-2017 9:01 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Are you saying you refuse to look at contradictory evidence?
No matter how many feeble excuses you make, there is precedent for any maligning of Trump (for which you still refuse to provide evidence of any unfairness or lies) and it was set by the right wing under Obama.

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JonF
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Message 738 of 960 (812672)
06-19-2017 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 737 by Faith
06-19-2017 9:17 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
It's obvious.
I.e. you have no evidence or argument. Thought so.
Marc has done a good job on the facts and you're all blind to them so what's the point?
The point is truth. Something which obviously doesn't interest you, since you refuse to look at contradictory evidence.
I WISH Obama had been maligned to the extent Trump is
Obama was maligned much more than Trump.

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
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Message 744 of 960 (812696)
06-19-2017 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 743 by Faith
06-19-2017 2:56 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
And yet no evidence or reason to believe he committed any crimes, much less treason.
You sure love it inside your little right-wing bubble of hate.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 746 of 960 (812699)
06-19-2017 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 731 by JonF
06-18-2017 8:46 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
And you still haven't answered the question: What lies?
Obama's a Muslim in league with / leading ISIS.
Obama's not a natural-born US citizen.
Obama's after your guns.
Obama's going to repeal the Constitution and Declaration of Independence and institute a Communnist government.
And my personal favorite; Jade Helm. Obama's going to take over all the Southwest states with the aid the Chinese army which is hidden in caves and tunnels under closed Walmarts in Texas. Governor Abbot activated the State Guard to prevent this.
So, you bugged me over several messages to list some lies, i did, and you ran like a scared little bunny.
Do you need a longer list? I can easily produce one.
Still no posting of lies about Trump. Guess there aren't any.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 168 days)
Posts: 6174
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Message 747 of 960 (812700)
06-19-2017 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 745 by Faith
06-19-2017 3:28 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Still in the bubble. Terrified of looking outside at contradictory evidence. Poor "inerrant" Faith.
Got any specific evidence of the Left loving evil?
Didn't think so.
Got any list of lies about Trump?
Didn't think so.
Do you condemn what Nugent and Jones said?
Didn't think so.

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JonF
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Message 749 of 960 (812702)
06-19-2017 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 745 by Faith
06-19-2017 3:28 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Oh there's evidence, twisted and buried by the Left though.
Pathetic.
If it's buried how do you know about it? Seems it can't be buried or you don't know if it exists.
If you know about it why can't you produce it?
And all those non-existent "lies" about Trump....

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