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Author Topic:   2014 was hotter than 1998. 2015 data in yet?
Taq
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Message 162 of 357 (777159)
01-26-2016 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by Jon
01-26-2016 6:14 PM


Re: 216 feet
You mean we should all give up the only source of energy we know to be capable of improving our lives (clean water, abundant food, health care, personal - and, by extension, economic and political - freedom, warm houses and general good times) out of what may be an insanely irrational fear?
It isn't an irrational fear that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and will increase temperatures. It is rather solid science.
If solar could give us what we needed, I'd say 'fuck, man, let's switch tomorrow'. But as it cannot - as no other energy source can - we need to ask the tough and honest questions, such as: is it worth giving up the food on your table and the clothes on your kids' backs just to stave off a few meters of sea water a couple hundred years in the future?
Nuclear can replace all of our gas and coal fired plants, and it can do it now. France has already shown that it can work. With advances in battery capacity, it won't be too long before everyone can use electric vehicles for personal transport. That just leaves large vehicles like transport trucks.

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Message 168 of 357 (777166)
01-26-2016 10:04 PM
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01-26-2016 9:21 PM


Re: 216 feet
That's not what I was referring to as an "irrational fear". For a hint see the subtitle of this post, your post, and the one you replied to.
For me, an irrational fear is one that is not based known mechanisms. I guess we just differ on what is and isn't irrational.
Indeed. It's just unfortunate no one here is advocating such real alternatives to fossil fuels.
Indeed, it is. At times, it is hard to separate the movement to replace fossil fuels from the Green movement which fights to stop nuclear power. It seems to be a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face.
Well. France's production is below the U.S.
That's the thing with looking at small countries - it's easy to distort the reality of the situation with large percentages of rather small wholes.
It is a step though.
France's production as a percentage of total power output is well above the US. About 75% of France's electrical power comes from nuclear.
"In 2004, fission energy made up the largest share of France's energy consumption at 39%. Looking purely at electricity, though, 407 TWh (75%) out of the country's total production of 541 TWh of electricity was from fission-electric power stations, the highest percentage in the world."
Nuclear power in France - Wikipedia
I see no reason why this wouldn't scale with population.

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Message 343 of 357 (809954)
05-22-2017 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 342 by ICANT
05-21-2017 10:17 PM


Re: 2016 Hottest on Record
ICANT writes:
Isn't the earth supposed to get so hot in the future that man can not survive on it?
Where did you hear that from?
It does not make any difference whether we contribute global warming or not.
The Sun is going to get so big it will swallow the earth about 4 billion years from now. Which means that it will cease to have water a long time before then.
What is wrong with wanting a nice planet to live on in the intervening 4 billion years?
So which is it that is doing the damage, man or the Sun?
Right now, it is man.

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Message 356 of 357 (812682)
06-19-2017 12:46 PM
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06-15-2017 2:54 PM


Re: 2016 Hottest on Record
ICANT writes:
Science papers.
You will need to quote and cite those science papers for us.

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