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Author Topic:   The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right
Faith 
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Message 724 of 960 (812558)
06-17-2017 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 723 by JonF
06-17-2017 12:36 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Easy.
First admit that your claim that what's happening is unprecedented is wrong.
No, Jones and Nugent are not the media, they are not Wolf Blitzer, they are not CNN or CBS or NBC or the NY Times or the Huffington Post or the Washington Post, their opinions never get aired on the Yahoo news page either. They are not Hollywood stars, they are not Madonna, they are not Congress, they are not paid by someone like Soros, they are not prime time comedians, they are not The View, they did not participate in violent protests against Obama, they did not call for his assassination or back anyone who did. THAT kind of attack on Trump is what is unprecedented. Obama had lots of conservative critics, he did not have anything like what is being thrown at Trump, this concerted organized Leftwing attempt to bring him down and impede his every move and make up stuff that doesn't exist to poison the public against him. (By now it's clear there was no Russian collusion, but it wouldn't serve them to give it up so they won't.)
ABE: and in fact Jones for one, and probably Nugent too, is the target of all the above along with Trump. Don't give me this phony equation, there is no comparison.
So --what lies?
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Faith 
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Message 727 of 960 (812573)
06-17-2017 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 726 by JonF
06-17-2017 2:23 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
No you are still missing the point. Jones and Nugent are completely isolated from the mainstream news sources, and according to Jones he is subjected to censorship on social media too. Nugent may be a rock star but his politics aren't aired like the Leftist stars' are; Jones has a lot more viewers than most of the MSM but he's nevertheless confined to public oblivion. (Tim Allen is a star but as soon as he showed his Trump colors he was kicked off his very popular show.) In any case, you have to go LOOK for them, you will not see them all the time as you do the Leftists, on just any MSM outlet. Because they are not Leftists, they are anti-Leftists, so they are carefully confined to a separate sphere where it can be pretended that they don't exist. Everybody knows all the names I listed but only diehard rightwingers know of Jones and Nugent. Until recently anyway -- seeing Jones on the Yahoo news page because of the Megyn Kelly flap was a first. And they don't want to air that interview either, so his brief public exposure isn't going to last anyway.
I'm sure Nugent's NRA call to shoot Harry Reid was a joke --it made me laugh anyway --not like Madonna's fantasy of blowing up the white house which was only too serious, not to mention all the other suggestions of murdering Trump that I keep hearing about. And even your own quote doesn't have Nugent calling for Obama's assassination as you claimed, he calls for Obama and Clinton to be tried for treason and hung. Not the same thing, and again this is not in-your-face public hatred like what Trump and his supporters are being subjected to. Sorry, you've got the context wrong and you've got the scale wrong, there is no comparison.
And you still haven't answered the question: What lies?
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Message 729 of 960 (812607)
06-18-2017 7:40 AM
Reply to: Message 728 by Genomicus
06-17-2017 9:00 PM


Re: more of the same
dup
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Message 730 of 960 (812608)
06-18-2017 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 728 by Genomicus
06-17-2017 9:00 PM


Re: more of the same
Yes I understand you must identify little old me as the Oppressor Class one way or another to justify the Marxist need for an Enemy, so you must interpret anything I say as desiring harm to people or an "under class." It really doesn't matter what I think about any of this, Marxism has it all worked out, and once the Class Warfare is in swing you'll be very happy to see me dead. I get it. Therefore it doesn't matter at all that I had no idea of anything remotely like slavery or the oppression of a diferent race in anything I said: You know, because Marxism says so, that of course I did.
abe: Today's Oppressor Class is what, the white race? anybody of European background? Anybody who is a legitimate American citizen? And the underclass is of course anybody with "brown skin" who are always innocent whether they're here illegally or not: because they are defined as the Underclass by Marxism they are victims of the Oppressor Class and it doesn't matter what degree of criminality they might exercise against that Oppressor Class, they are right and the OC deserves to be dead, right? Marx was SO cleverl.
Your mind is poisoned by your education and you haven't a clue.
Hey I'm ready for the gulag, come and get me.
Dear God I hate the Left.
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Faith 
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Message 732 of 960 (812612)
06-18-2017 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 731 by JonF
06-18-2017 8:46 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
I never heard of Nugent until the last few days and it doesn't matter if RIGHTWING NUTCASES quote him, he's nevertheless exactly as I said, confined to the right wing and not one of the people who gets quoted by the MSM. Because he's right wing. And because the right wing is labeled nuitcases.
I quoted your own source about Obama and Hillary which says TRIED FOR TREASON AND HUNG. Sheesh.
abe3 LET ME TRY TO BE CLEARER IN THE TEETH OF THE LEFTIST SHREDDING MACHINE:
IF they are quoted it is only to vilify them and call them names. They do not get any kind of platform that is FAVORABLE to their views except their own platforms which are confined to their isolated spheres.
Too bad Nugent uses crude language, but of course the Left has to make an issue of such secondary things while covering up the same on their own side.
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Faith 
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Message 735 of 960 (812663)
06-19-2017 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 734 by JonF
06-19-2017 8:57 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
The MSM shreds them, why would I want to contribute to that?

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Faith 
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Message 737 of 960 (812667)
06-19-2017 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 736 by JonF
06-19-2017 9:14 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
It's obvious. Marc has done a good job on the facts and you're all blind to them so what's the point? There are lots of good sources of the truth and I try to listen to some of them every day. The haters of Trump are crazy, the world is going to Hell thanks to the Left. And all you do is vilify the people who know the truth. I don't see any way out.
I WISH Obama had been maligned to the extent Trump is but he wasn't, and he's still the darling of the demented destructive Left.
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Faith 
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Message 742 of 960 (812690)
06-19-2017 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 740 by Taq
06-19-2017 12:55 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
It's my honest opinion, as I've explained many times already which apparently you haven't bothered to read. Obama had the media and Hollywood and the comedians on his side for starters. The conservatives hated him, rightly, but don't have the influence of those sources who are all in favor of Obama still, while they endlessly tear down Trump. You just have no perspective whatever. But then Leftists don't.
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Faith 
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Message 743 of 960 (812691)
06-19-2017 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 739 by Chiroptera
06-19-2017 11:57 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
They weren't untrue and unreasonable and I expect that eventually it will all come out too. Obama was the worst President we've ever had, a traitor.

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Faith 
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Message 745 of 960 (812698)
06-19-2017 3:28 PM
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06-19-2017 3:25 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Oh there's evidence, twisted and buried by the Left though.
We hate the right things, too bad the Left loves evil so much.
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Faith 
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Message 748 of 960 (812701)
06-19-2017 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 746 by JonF
06-19-2017 3:28 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
So, you bugged me over several messages to list some lies, i did, and you ran like a scared little bunny.
Do you need a longer list? I can easily produce one.
Still no posting of lies about Trump. Guess there aren't any.
What? The lies I was asking about were those you said were told in that Jones-nugent exchange. (see Message 720)
I don't agree that what you are calling lies here are lies but it wasn't the question anyway. You said the Jones and Nugent exchange was "chock full of lies." Name one.
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Faith 
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Message 750 of 960 (812703)
06-19-2017 3:35 PM
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06-19-2017 3:34 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
You don't want to know the truth, so what's the point? Every headline I see is a lie about Trump, but if I point it out the Left denies it so what's the point.
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Faith 
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Message 754 of 960 (812707)
06-19-2017 4:00 PM
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06-19-2017 3:56 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
,,,
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Faith 
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Message 755 of 960 (812709)
06-19-2017 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 751 by JonF
06-19-2017 3:55 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Barack Obama is the enemy of America
Nancy Pelosi is a braindead, vicious freak
liberal Democrats are subhuman freaks,
liberals want everyone bending over and taking it in the ass
Obama is trying to set up a caliphate and overthrowing this country
None of those are lies. The three in the middle are opinions. The two about Obama are true.

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Faith 
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Message 756 of 960 (812712)
06-19-2017 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 753 by PaulK
06-19-2017 4:00 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
There have been direct calls to murder Trump, nobody interprets namecalling as calls for murder except of course crazy Leftists. There is this play going on which clearly identifies Trump and calls for his assassination. Nothing like that ever happened to Obama.
By the way I personally dislike calling people subhuman freaks, even Nancy Pelosi. But in context it's just an expression of anger at the stupidity of the Left, a secondary thing that should be ignored.
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