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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You've bought a big fat lie based on Leftist bias. Get a clue. That's not what is going on.
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JonF Member (Idle past 167 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Then stop accusing people of "kicking the poor in the face," because that is an invitation to murder. Not at all. I can't see any connection whatsoever between those clauses. At most it's an invitation to address the reality of what the GOP is attempting to do to the poor.
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You're the only one who seems to think so. Then stop accusing people of "kicking the poor in the face," because that is an invitation to murder. Let me repeat: I do not advocate killing anybody. I'm against capital punishment. I'm against the war with ISIS. I'm against killing somebody in self-defence.
Faith writes:
But of course our society DOES consider murder worse than assault, and certainly worse than figurative assault.
And accusing you of murder is no worse than accusing me of kicking poor people in the face and taking away their health care.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Prove it?
See Message 267
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JonF Member (Idle past 167 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Then stop accusing people of "kicking the poor in the face," because that is an invitation to murder. Another incantation to avoid addressing issues! Charming.
That's not what is going on. The GOP health care bill as currently envision would cause tens of thousands of preventable deaths per year among the poor and middle class. Fact. And it gets even worse when you look beyond the ten-year window the CBO is restricted too.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That is not a fact, that's a lie.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Everything you've said is a lie. You are accusing people of evil deeds without any restraint whatever and that's a lie that can get people murdered. And so you continue lying. Everything I have mentioned is called facts Faith. Christianity has historically been intolerant of other religions including other versions of Christianity. Christianity was spread over Europe and the North and South Americas by conquest and force. The Native American lands were taken by force and even US treaties ignored. Much of the US was taken by conquest and we have never given any of it back. You really also seem absolutely clueless about Christian Duty. One major Christian Duty is to honestly acknowledge our failing, change our future behavior and try to make reparations to those we have harmed. There is nothing about killing except in your posts. And you STILL have not provided any support for either your original topic or this new "move the goal posts" version or any other version.
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JonF Member (Idle past 167 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Prove it? See Message 267 I did, and replied to it. Yeah, something horrible happened in Rwanda when one group was considered as evil by others. That's not necessarily the result of every time someone considers someone else evil. There were lots of other factors. How do you describe unnecessarily killing tens of thousands of Americans so the rich can have a tax cut (which won't do the economy any good)?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Leftist lie.
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JonF Member (Idle past 167 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
That is not a fact, that's a lie. More incantation. Prove it. The link between health care and mortality is well established. More health care, less mortality. Less health care, more mortality. The GOP intends reducing health care significantly. More people will die of preventable or curable causes.
The Relationship of Health Insurance and Mortality: Is Lack of Insurance Deadly?:
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JonF Member (Idle past 167 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Leftist lie. Can't come up with some fresh enchantment? You have to re-use an old one? No, it's not a lie. The GOP tax cut will cause many deaths. How do you describe unnecessarily killing tens of thousands of Americans so the rich can have a tax cut (which won't do the economy any good)?
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Faith writes: Your ideology ends up advocating murder. Not only do conservatives falsely believe that they are being oppressed and censored simply because people disagree with them, they also think that everyone who disagrees with them wants to murder them. We can add paranoia to the growing list of psychological issues that many conservatives share.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: And now you remind me of the exchange starting here Message 753 Funny how it took you less than two weeks to go from denying that you say such things to saying them again.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Say what things? This topic is how PC accuses people of things that can get them killed under the right circumstances, that it's all about finding an enemy to blame for some kind of suffering of somebody else, how Marxism invents an Oppressor and an Oppressed and sets up the Oppressor for abuse, namecalling, intimidation and even murder. That's what it did in the Russian "revolution" and other Communist regimes. It's also what Hitler did. It's also what happened in Rwanda. The accusations are all made up but they have vicious consequences if the circumstances are right.
You say I denied this somewhere? I'm not going to check and if you don't want to clarify I don't care. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Conditions which don't exist and aren't likely to exist in America.
quote: That's rather your thing. In fact this whole line is an example of it. And really, if you are talking about actual Marxism don't you think that employers had a lot to do with the awful working conditions many people suffered in Marx's time ? Which is rather more than can be said for the targets of your hate.
quote: You denied that it was a problem when a Rightist did it. And let us be honest "subhuman vermin" is rather closer to the Nazi attitude than the actual statements you object to.
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