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Author Topic:   Quote Mining, false witness for the gullible and willfully ignorant
LamarkNewAge
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Message 3 of 49 (814344)
07-07-2017 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Phat
07-07-2017 10:26 AM


Trump doesn't get criticized for the most important and scary things.
Saudi Arabia and others gave Qatar a 13 point list that must be met.
One was the shutting down of al Jazeera.
( I feel so bad because I had a conspiracy theory friend that for months singled out Qatar as a good nation that was on the side of the people. I always threw Qatar in with the rest of the rotten Gulf states, and argued with him on numerous points. I am sorry to say that he moved months ago and I don't think I will get the chance to apologize for my ignorance. I now have at least become aware of my past ignorance due to recent developments )
From the June 24-25 Wall Street Journal article Arab States Issue Demands to Qatar by Nicolas Parasie and Summer Said
quote:
The U. S., however, would be potentially supportive of calls to shut down Al Jazeera, the official said.
So much for the uncompromising freedom of the press.
The left in this country needs to remember that its ideological soul mate , Al Gore, recognized this news organization as a great one and on the side of people over propaganda.
(I don't always get it right I must say. I love reading a paper called China Daily and have months of my issues piling up along with endless other daily papers. I just found out that the paper is published by the People's Republic of China. I don't have any explanation for how I failed to notice lol. )
All sides let government propaganda dictate what we are outraged by. We were obsessed with the Russian conspiracy theories ( which Trump was falsely accused of being a party to ) while we are directed away from seeing much of what is really outrageous and freedom-quashing.
Creationism and Trumpism have their own opinions which are very judgmental and overlook the beam in their own eyes, but the opposition has massive misjudgments too.
Consider my post an endorsement for the Sermon on The Mount
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 10 of 49 (814380)
07-08-2017 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by ringo
07-08-2017 11:39 AM


Trump made calculated comments about Mexicans and it was deliberately sweeping.
He specifically said that only "some" were good people.
The speech about Mexico not sending "their best" but sending drug dealers and sexual criminals.
It was deliberately sweeping so I can't feel sorry for him when his daughter says that she is just so shocked by all the negativity.
Marco Rubio said, during his Presidential drop out speech , that the campaign Trump ran would cause ethnic groups to have mutual hatred for each other.
Trump has added to a "not all good things" type of racial relations situation we all faced already in the United States.
Racial relations are worse than they need to be and this was a price Trump was willing to make the nation pay so he could win the GOP primary (which had voters hungry for bold "politically incorrect" rabble )

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 15 of 49 (814393)
07-09-2017 12:31 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by marc9000
07-08-2017 10:48 PM


Just a short response on the special election results.
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 16 of 49 (814394)
07-09-2017 12:46 AM
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07-08-2017 10:48 PM


Just to reiterate
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 23 of 49 (814404)
07-09-2017 1:29 PM


I haven't seen a creationist quote any scientific literature for years.
So I don't think quote mining is going on.
Creationism doesn't even rely on the literature. I am around creationist people all the time.
I attempted to show Faith a massive source of scientific research quotes ( Charles Ginenthal free PDF books on his site ) on pro catastrophe geological issues, but she refused. She still debates the flood issue, but never quotes scientific literature.
Quoting shouldn't be attacked, nobody is kept from responding.
Perhaps the problem is that the journals aren't available ( except at a great expense ) so the short quotes are difficult to respond to WHEN a quote is ever used in a debate to start with?

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