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Author Topic:   Quote Mining, false witness for the gullible and willfully ignorant
NoNukes
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Message 12 of 49 (814384)
07-08-2017 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by LamarkNewAge
07-08-2017 12:07 PM


Re: Trump made calculated comments about Mexicans and it was deliberately sweeping.
He specifically said that only "some" were good people.
More like, "They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people."
No, that was not meant to be the kind of epithet you could drop on anyone of any nationality. I can understand a wing-nut being okay with such a statement, but I cannot accept the faux bewilderment at other people who find the statement ridiculous.
Of course, Hillary later comes along and makes that "basket of deplorables" comment that kicks way all possible moral high ground.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 18 of 49 (814396)
07-09-2017 2:07 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by RAZD
07-08-2017 8:50 PM


Re: Trump made calculated comments about Mexicans and it was deliberately sweeping.
She never had high ground.
Okay... I believe my comment said all "possible" moral high ground.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 19 of 49 (814397)
07-09-2017 2:12 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by marc9000
07-08-2017 10:48 PM


Re: It's a good laugh
Today, the 14th amendment is being quote mined to attempt to grant illegal immigrants constitutional rights
If this is your best example, then you are just wing-nutting rather than making a point. A complete reading of Supreme Court case law on the 14th amendment easily settles the issue of who is quote mining, and who knows that they are talking about. Hint. The current interpretation of the 14th amendment was not invented by liberals.
But of course, you claim to have large numbers of examples. Rather than typing long screeds full of invective and short on examples, how about listing about three solid examples and then sticking around for some pro/con discussion.
Or continue to bluster, and pontificate about what you don't remember seeing on ABC news as is your normal mode of operation.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 22 of 49 (814403)
07-09-2017 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by jar
07-09-2017 6:49 AM


Re: It's a good laugh
There is simply no culture of truth or honesty in today's Right-Wing Fascist movement.
I'd like to think that conservatives can carry on an honest political discussion, but some folks do so only occasionally. In particular, 9K has a pattern of eel-like behavior that is particularly annoying. RAZD's thread is the perfect opportunity for anyone to put up quote-mining examples if you've got them. Marc9000 likely believes that there will be an overwhelming number of creationist examples posted here, so in predictable, Boulder-dash fashion, he shows up to pee in the cornflakes rather than to discuss.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 25 of 49 (814407)
07-09-2017 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by LamarkNewAge
07-09-2017 1:29 PM


Re: I haven't seen a creationist quote any scientific literature for years.
So I don't think quote mining is going on.
This thread was started in response to CRR doing exactly that.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 33 of 49 (814442)
07-09-2017 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by marc9000
07-09-2017 8:03 PM


Re: It's a good laugh
No Nukes did an edit job too. He launched into some name calling, then accused ME of "bluster". He edited out the name calling, but left the "bluster" part in
I did do that. I thought the name calling was inappropriate. I still think that. But I also think that "quote mining" not being in the dictionary is a stupid argument. I won't be removing the insult this time.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
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Message 46 of 49 (814953)
07-13-2017 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by marc9000
07-11-2017 11:58 AM


Re: It's a good laugh
The term "quote mine" not being formally defined is significant however.
No, it is not a significant issue. Everyone here, including you, knows what the term means. If you have any doubts about the meaning, all you have to do is ask for clarification. The original post sufficiently clarifies what this thread is about.
You are not contributing to any honest discussion. You are doubling down on being a distraction and my responses to you just make more distraction. I am over my limit for responding to your BS in a thread so I'm not going to pursue this any further.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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NoNukes
Inactive Member


Message 49 of 49 (815012)
07-14-2017 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Rrhain
07-14-2017 4:14 AM


Re: Trump made calculated comments about Mexicans and it was deliberately sweeping.
off topic
Edited by NoNukes, : RAZD has asked us to stay on topic

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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