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Author Topic:   Exploring (mostly Cultural) Marxism in today's Left
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Message 338 of 381 (814409)
07-09-2017 2:44 PM
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07-07-2017 2:23 PM


Re: Faith. What would be your "non Marxist" solution to this problem?
Christianity has all the principles needed for humane reform, we certainly don't need Marxism which is an evil murderous ideology.

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Message 339 of 381 (814410)
07-09-2017 2:48 PM
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07-08-2017 1:07 AM


Re: Summary
FYI, this thread isn't about immigration at all. Perhaps you meant to post on that thread.
This cavalier attitude toward American law is very depressing. I vote that you be disbarred.

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Message 342 of 381 (814417)
07-09-2017 5:03 PM
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07-09-2017 4:05 PM


Re: Faith. What would be your "non Marxist" solution to this problem?
They've been used throughout history. Slavery and the slave trade would never have been abolished if it weren't for Christianity. There would never have been orphanages or hospitals without Christianity. There would never have been a Magna Carta without Christianity.

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Message 345 of 381 (814475)
07-10-2017 11:01 AM
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07-10-2017 9:07 AM


Just another leftist smear campaign
Leftist propaganda is of course all you are spouting here, you and NN. I've given good sources of information on this thread.
The idea that it was "invented by Nazis" is screaming insane. It didn't even exist as such until the sixties in America, not Germany. The Frankfurt School started out in Germany before Hitler and was certainly Jewish and anti-Nazi, but the Nazis had nothing to do with them except to inspire them to leave the country.
Cultural Marxism is the correct term for the Frankfurt School's Marxist dogma that has taken over America since the sixties. The Frankfurt School was so anti-Nazi that it saw Nazis everywhere, even in America and designed their attack on the culture as if it was a Nazi culture, with the intent of destroying it. What they were attacking in fact was all the good things of western culture, not Nazism. There was no Nazism in America. Multiculturalism is one of their methods, Islam being a favorite way of destroying us these days. You define an Oppressor and an Oppressed, just as did classical Marxism, and you champion the Oppressed to destroy the Oppressor. It's all invented to cause class division, conflict and war and destroy the west. Obviously the local leftists think that's just wonderful.
Political Correctness is a Marxist term invented by Mao to refer to such "correct" positions as those promoted by the Frankfurt School. I don't follow any of the extreme right wing you are all imputing to this concept. They have no say in any of this. If they jumped on the topic it was a lot later than I did and I have nothing to do with them. Instead of smearing me with people I have nothing to do with, take the time to read my posts.
How crafty and evil is the Left, to make up such stuff. Staggering. Maybe the weirdest thing is how they succeed at convincing idiot liberals of their destructive aims. I would never have believed that evil murderous lies could take over the world until the last couple of decades, and until seeing it in operation at EvC.
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Faith 
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Message 348 of 381 (814482)
07-10-2017 11:54 AM
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07-10-2017 11:27 AM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Even your own lying propaganda admits that the subject may be confined to the work of the Frankfurt School, which is all I've referred to on this thread. The rest is smear.
The lying left is too depressing. If you don't want to review the thread, go ahead and believe the lies. The Bible says there will be those so deluded as the end approaches they'll just continue in it to the bitter finale. Marxism is certainly one of the major tools the devil is using to bring it on.

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Message 350 of 381 (814491)
07-10-2017 12:04 PM
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07-10-2017 12:01 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
I think you've hit on a major formula for bringing on the Antichrist. Just put "Christianity" in the place of any evil ideology and you've nailed it.

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Faith 
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Message 352 of 381 (814493)
07-10-2017 12:09 PM
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07-10-2017 12:06 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Oh beg your pardon. That's really a much better way of summoning the Antichrist since he will identify himself with Christianity but Biblical Christianity will oppose him. If you vilify Biblical Christianity and identify it with the Antichrist you will certainly succeed in confusing people enough to make them prey to the world powers of evil. Good show.

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Faith 
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Message 358 of 381 (814522)
07-10-2017 3:39 PM
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07-10-2017 12:15 PM


The true Christians who are still in the Roman Church need to leave it
It would have been the still-Christian elements within the RCC, not the RCC hierarchy which was corrupted since the inception of the papacy as world ruler, and the incorporation of pagan superstitions. There had to be Christian elements within the RCC all along because that's what inspired the Protestant Reformation and the earlier reformers before them. There are still Christians within the RCC, even many who recognize the corruption of the papacy but nevertheless hold onto what is still truly Christian. For their own good they need to face the fact that Christianity is not of the essence of the RCC and leave it the way the Protestant Reformers did.
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Faith 
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Message 359 of 381 (814524)
07-10-2017 4:06 PM
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07-10-2017 12:14 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
You've "demonstrated" no such thing. You've bought the Leftist propaganda smear that ignores the facts and makes a mountain out of a belated white supremacist molehill that has nothing whatever to do with the facts. Typical propaganda coup though. It sure doesn't take much to convince people of Satan's lies against God.
Interesting though. After I wrote on this theme earlier I went out to the kitchen to get some breakfast and turned on the radio out there as I usually do, which is tuned to one of the two conservative stations, and heard discussion of how the leftist media is spinning Trump's speech about the greatness of the west, its foundation on family and Christian values and so on, all the values I try to defend here against the leftist powers of destruction, Marxism on this thread. Trump defends the greatness of the west and particularly America, which was recognized around the world until the last few decades, and still draws people who want to live here because of its huge success as a civilization. But the spin these days is that it was all racist evils, all about the white race, all against other races, just the typical depressing lying Marxist spin. It makes me sick, it makes me cry. It never had anything to do with race, it's all about sane go9verning policies based on the humane teachings of Christianity, and it ought to be recognized as the work of the Evil One when it is attacked as it has been by the Left, which this thread is showing to be driven by Cultural Marxism. The reduction of the greatness of western civilization to racism is so evil and disgusting all any sane person can do is mourn such demented destructiveness. How on earth did the educational system get taken over by these barbarian idiots?

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Message 361 of 381 (814531)
07-10-2017 5:18 PM
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07-10-2017 4:39 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
"Pushing the claims of Cultural Marxism" makes no sense. Cultural Marxist is the LEFT for pete's sake. And all the conservatives I know complain constantly about multiculturalism, accusations of racism and Islamophobia and homophobia, which are all straight out of Cultural Marxism. So much for "nobody else does." You don't know what you are talking about, haven'/t a clue, just like the idea of smearing all us conservatives as Nazis, which is another tip from the Cultural Marxist playbook, via such luminaries as Saul Alinsky. All Cultural Marxism amounts to in the end is namecalling. Call us Nazis, call us white supremacists, call us racists, call us Islamophobes. The concentration camps are for us these days you see; You're the real Nazis, the real fascists. Open your eyes.l

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Message 363 of 381 (814541)
07-10-2017 5:35 PM
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07-10-2017 5:30 PM


jar commits another stupendous fallacy
Oh gosh, another logic failure by jar. How tedious. The point is to identify you as the fascists, and fascists are the ones who put their opponents in concentration camps. I don't have to know about such camps, they may or may not exist...yet, but when they do it will be YOUR team that puts MY team into them.

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Faith 
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Message 365 of 381 (814553)
07-10-2017 6:17 PM
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07-10-2017 6:04 PM


Re: jar commits another stupendous fallacy
Oh we've all known you're the fascists for decades now. Reagan knew it, we all know it. Except the fascists themselves. Of course.

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Message 367 of 381 (814564)
07-10-2017 6:42 PM
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07-10-2017 6:22 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Oh good grief. Cultural Marxism was invented by Jews. There are just as many Jews who see through it and reject it. Were leftists born with some kind of brain damage that prevents them from making meaningful distinctions?
The rest of your post is garbledegook.

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Faith 
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Message 370 of 381 (814570)
07-10-2017 6:57 PM
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07-10-2017 6:45 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Cultural Marxism was invented by Jews...
Yup. And it was used as an excuse for antisemitism.
Oooooooh, the typical leftist fake news gambit. Leaving out the part that says just as many Jews oppose it. Just can't stop smearing, can't stop spinning, can't stop making it up, can you?
Somewhat like you are using it as an excuse for antiliberalism. The difference is that it's connected to Jews but not connected to liberalism.
Excuse? Marxism isn't connected to liberalism? And who, pray tell, is always accusing conservatives of being racists and homophobes and islamophobes and so on for defending American security and freedoms? The whole litany of Cultural Marxist accusations is lobbed quite regularly at conservatives, and not by pixies and leprechauns. But hey I guess liberals are so blind to their own tactics we have to forgive them -- just as we'd forgive all sufferers from dementia.
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Faith 
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Message 371 of 381 (814572)
07-10-2017 7:42 PM
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07-10-2017 6:45 PM


Re: jar commits another stupendous fallacy
And yet you cannot show a single example of anything involving the left that can honestly be described as fascist
Uh,
Violent protests against a legitimately elected President
Threats to kill Trump
Threats to impeach him without one iota of cause
Daily fake news, all lies, aimed at destroying his reputation
-- all the above demonstrates hatred of freedom and need to control everybody and enforce conformity to whatever they dictate:
Totalitarian ambition, globalism, opposed strenuously by conservatives who are freedom-lovers
Hatred of freedom of thought, must control everything from government to education to parenting
Leftist principles as expressed in Communist regimes that murder and oppress should be defined as fascist for the same reasons
while the Trump Administration and the current Conservatives exhibit every single characteristic of a fascist state;
Nationalism,
-- Nonsense: Nationalism is a necessary part of true freedom, it is not fascist, it protects against the true fascism which is global tyranny which is being promoted most energetically by the Left, though some so-called conservatives have a part in it too.
Corporatism.
What? There's as much or more corporate tyranny on the left than the right.
single party control of all facets of government:
What? This is true of the Left, which right now is continuing to exert every effort to continue to run the country despite the election of the other party, and to deny Trump supporters the right to exercise OUR party principles over the Left's. How crazy self-deluded can you get?
a strong connection with one established religion and the suppression or exclusion of other religions,
Which is just a statement of the bogus Leftist principle of equality that wants equality for everything BUT Christianity. Christianity is the truth, Christianity built the west and brought the most liberal, humane, prosperous form of government the world had ever seen. And tolerance of other belief systems is a Christian principle, though the Left has turned it into a weapon to destroy Christianity itself. What a diabolical satanic system the Left is.
racism,
There is no racism in the Trump administration, it's all hallucinated by idiot leftists following the formula of Cultural Marxism.
militarism...
Excuse me but rumor has it that Hillary was the biggest hawk ever. Trump wants to have a strong military, and unfortunately it looks like he's caved to some leftist militarism I'm sorry to say, but nothing in his campaign was militaristic at all. I wish he'd throw out all the bums he thinks it a mark of diplomacy to listen to...
the list is endless.
Yes I'm sure Leftist invented accusations are indeed endless.
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