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Author Topic:   The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right
PaulK
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Message 677 of 960 (812323)
06-16-2017 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 676 by Faith
06-16-2017 12:28 AM


Re: Hate speech
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Well there we have the party line again.
It's not a party line - it is personal observation. And we have clear examples in this thread.
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Can't point out the utterly insanely egregious attacks on Trump and his supporters without being accused of refusing to accept criticism ourselves, which is nothing but a distraction from the point, a change of subject.
Might I point out that someone who claimed that Trump could sort out health care but the Democrats were somehow stopping him (how? have they hidden his magic wand?) is hardly in a position to accurately assess what is going on. Or even what is sane.
And you have admitted that you are fine with egregious attacks on "liberals".
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The Left is out of control, there has never been anything before like the Left's attack on President Trump, by the media, by political leaders, by entertainment people, all the Leftists out there.
And of course you can't accept the fact that much of these "attacks" are perfectly valid criticism. As opposed to, say, the insanity of "Pizzagate". Or even the hounding of Bill Clinton after the Whitewater investigation failed to find cause to prosecute.
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There has never been such a refusal to accept the results of an election before, no matter how bitter the loss. Never. That's the subject here.
And yet a lot of it Trump brings upon himself. If Obama had been as bad as Trump there would have been far more criticism of him. There wasn't because he wasn't that bad.

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Message 753 of 960 (812706)
06-19-2017 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 751 by JonF
06-19-2017 3:55 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
I'll just add that if a "leftist" called Trump voters "subhuman freaks" Faith would take it as strong evidence of planned genocide.
What's the betting that she will apply her usual double standards ?

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PaulK
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Message 757 of 960 (812714)
06-19-2017 5:10 PM
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06-19-2017 5:02 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
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There have been direct calls to murder Trump, nobody interprets namecalling as calls for murder except of course crazy Leftists.
Then you must be a crazy leftist. Because you're the only one who takes "name calling" as evidence of planned genocide.
ABE: here's an exampleMessage 338
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...you can be happy when the Christians, nasty evil bigots, haters and hypocrites we are, get our just desserts. Oh and we're cockroaches and vermin too, subhuman like the Jews and the Slavs and the Tuts
Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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Message 892 of 960 (814707)
07-12-2017 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 881 by Faith
07-11-2017 8:31 PM


Re: Nobody said there is *no* evidence of collusion
Even if it was a set-up Trump jr loved - his word - the idea of getting illegal help from the Russian government. There was no element of coercion or anything else that would rise to the level of entrapment . Just the offer which he happily accepted, along with - it seems - Kushner and Manafort, both of whom were at the meeting.
And he lied about the purpose of the meeting when it was first raised. Which seems to be something of a habit in the Trump campaign.
Spin it how you like there is no doubt that this reflects very badly on the Trump campaign.

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PaulK
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Message 899 of 960 (814750)
07-12-2017 1:37 PM
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07-12-2017 1:07 PM


Re: Nobody said there is *no* evidence of collusion
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Hillary did a lot of colluding with Russia but that's being ignored.
Anything that you wouldn't roundly approve of if she was a Republican ? You didn't have any problem with Sessions' meetings with the Russians (and the main problem was misleading Congress, not the meetings themselves)
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The dirt one might get on her by talking to a Russian representative is evidence for that
How do you know that there was any real dirt to offer ? And if there was how do you know it wasn't obtained by hacking and nothing to do with Russia ?
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Trump wouldn't have been colluding, he would have been looking for evidence that Hillary colluded
Trump Jr went in with the intent of getting dirt from the Russian government without any real concern as to what that dirt might be. Certainly looks as if he was ready to collude.
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The Russian lawyer has been photographed at anti-Trump rallies and Soros events.
Even if that is true there is no evidence that she had anything to do with the alleged set-up.
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The whole thing is a set-up to take the heat off Hillary and smear Trump with her crimes.
Not much of a set-up. All Trump Jr or Kushner or Manafort had to do was to refuse the meeting. They weren't given any "dirt" - even fake "dirt" - which would have made the situation much worse. And you know reporting what they did is not a smear.

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Message 901 of 960 (814753)
07-12-2017 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 900 by Faith
07-12-2017 2:19 PM


Re: Nobody said there is *no* evidence of collusion
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I can't even keep track of Hillary's crimes, including selling American info to Russia for money
I suppose your sources keep inventing new ones.
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Sessions' contact had nothing to do with campaign issues, they were standard contacts with diplomats that all US politicians have
That's why the problem is that he mislead Congress about them (which does lead to the suspicion that there might have been more to the meetings)
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There was nothing he was required to report, or would even have occurred to him to report.
He was asked about meetings between Trump campaign staff and the Russians. He said he didn't know of any. He met with the Russians while he was working for the Trump campaign. What he said was obviously false and misleading.

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Message 913 of 960 (814805)
07-12-2017 11:59 PM
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07-12-2017 11:05 PM


Re: ItRe: Nobody said there is *no* evidence of collusion
Since the claims of innocence rely on the fact Trump jr didn't get what he was looking for they really don't speak well of him. Or Kushner.
And if you really think that there is nothing wrong with misleading Congress just come out and say it. Because that is what Sessions did. Which comes doubly suspicious when we add in the lies of Flynn and Trump jr about their meetings.

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Message 915 of 960 (814807)
07-13-2017 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 914 by Faith
07-13-2017 12:03 AM


Re: ItRe: Nobody said there is *no* evidence of collusion
You should know by now that that excuse is less than honest.
And if nothing was wrong why all the lying and dishonesty ?

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