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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: I suppose your sources keep inventing new ones.
quote: That's why the problem is that he mislead Congress about them (which does lead to the suspicion that there might have been more to the meetings)
quote: He was asked about meetings between Trump campaign staff and the Russians. He said he didn't know of any. He met with the Russians while he was working for the Trump campaign. What he said was obviously false and misleading.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
All Trump Jr or Kushner or Manafort had to do was to refuse the meeting. Or at least consult with the campaign's legal advisors. That's what I would have done if I were in that situation.Patriotism is the excuse that countries give to themselves for their failures. — Stephen Marche
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Taq Member Posts: 10073 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Faith writes: Hillary did a lot of colluding with Russia but that's being ignored. Conservatives are a bunch of children who think "HE DID IT TOO" is a way of covering up crimes. Pathetic.
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Taq Member Posts: 10073 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Faith writes: And there is no crime in talking to a Russian, even for promising dirt on a political opponent. Then why did Don Jr. lie about it?
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Whatever happened to that investigation that Trump was promising? He's the President. He has the power to fire the head of the FBI. How come the FBI is investigating him instead of Hillary?
I can't even keep track of Hillary's crimes....
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
FYI 52 U.S. Code Section 30121:
quote: Did Don Jr.'s and other's attendance at the meeting constitute soliciting a thing of value from a foreign national in connection with a Federal election? It's definitely possible and, IMH and non-lawerly opinion, likely. It requires more investigation, and that will happen.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It isn't about who "did it too," Hillary is the criminal, willful criminal, Trump Jr. just got sucked into a setup, and it wouldn't have been a crime in any case.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
How come? Because the Left is out to get him no matter what, it's got nothing to do with anything he deserves. I don't know why he didn't investigate Hillary, he should have.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Legally, there may not be much here. According to the only one talking about the meeting itself (namely, Donald Jr), it turned out that the whole meeting was to talk about the Magnitsky Act. Sigh. At the very minimum, Kushner lied about the meeting on a document used to vet him for a security clearance and/or evaluate him for conflicts. There is a huge pattern of this behavior from any number of folks. Trump, Jr. continued to lie and obfuscate up until the point where the NY Times promised to release the email chain. Let's recall that the administration's position was that nobody from the campaign talked to Russia prior to the election. How many folks have been caught lying so far? Leave that punch bowl alone. That Kool-aid is not for you. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Frantically trying to change an embarrassing subject,, I see.
What do you have to say, if anything, about the legality or lack thereof of Don Jr.'s actions? No fact-free rants, please. {Way OT, but I am compelled to point out it's easy to count the credible evidence hinting at any illegality by Hillary; there is none despite decades of right-wing efforts and hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars spent on repeating previous investigations.}
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
From everything I've heard there is nothing illegal about what Trump Jr. did.
There is also nothing wrong with not reporting on contacts with Russian representatives that occur all the time in the normal course of political life, which the left keeps trying to turn into crimes (xongsmith post) although the Democrats have the same experience of such contacts. And imputing motives to an opponent ("trying to change an embarrassing subject') is a violation of the Rules. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Since the claims of innocence rely on the fact Trump jr didn't get what he was looking for they really don't speak well of him. Or Kushner.
And if you really think that there is nothing wrong with misleading Congress just come out and say it. Because that is what Sessions did. Which comes doubly suspicious when we add in the lies of Flynn and Trump jr about their meetings.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There is nothing misleading about not reporting on something that is obviously irrelevant to the investigation and wouldn't even come to mind in the discussion.
The whole thing was innocent, there are no ethical or criminal implications whatever except in the feverish minds of leftists. The point about its being a setup isn't to establish innocence, it's to show that ALL this stuff is the work of the Left. ALL OF IT.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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You should know by now that that excuse is less than honest.
And if nothing was wrong why all the lying and dishonesty ?
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