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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
There is simply no evidence for that. It's all conjecture, all assumption based on the conjecture.
... it has to be built into the limits of the genome itself for a particular species.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
That's not a fact.
The fact is that all the evidence supports intraspecies variation ONLY....
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
The first science fiction novel was the Bible.
Charles Darwin wrote the first science-fiction novel. Dredge writes:
He'd be amazed at how much sense biology finally makes in the light of evolution.
If he were alive today he would be astonished that so many people have taken the contents of Origin seriously!
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Some words from the Bible come to mind:
For some reason, some words from a Supertramp song come to mind: "Dreamer; you're nothing but a dreamer."quote:
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Your mathematics is as bad as your biology. My religious views don't hold me back - by rejecting evolution I am missing out on exactly nothing, as far as science is concerned. This is due to the mathematical principle: evolution = zero. Seriously. Why reject evolution? When you get on an airplane, do you go to the cockpit and tell the pilot he doesn't know what he's doing? Where do you get the colossal arrogance to think you have anything intelligent to say about evolution?
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
That's too long for a bumper sticker.
An honest observation of thousands of years of animal and plant breeding suggests that Darwins' Tree of Common Descent is a Tree of Fantasy.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Are you channeling Davidjay? You're beginning to sound just as irrational.
What? ... You're comparing Darwinists' extrapolative fantasies to mathematics and physics? LOL! What an insult to true science.The more I talk to evolutionists, the more they remind me of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
CRR writes:
Welcome to the English language. Yes, definitions can vary according to context. You can use a knife for spreading butter or for open-heart surgery. Definitions seem to be remarkably idiosyncratic. That's no excuse for being confused. If you want to discuss any subject intelligently, it's up to YOU to understand the definitions in context. Mocking the definitions just makes you look like a fool.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
There is a "fixed repertoire" in the sense that only a certain set of combinations are possible. But it's a really, really big set. Is it not possible that bacteria are continually mutating through a fixed repertoire of mutations? Your task in rejecting evolution is to show why a subset of those possibilities would be fixed. For example, if the alphabet is your set of possibilities, you need to show why the combination AB is possible but the combination AC is not.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Hypothesizing would be a better word. Theorising is not a use! And of course it is useful. For example, if the Theory of Evolution tells us that pigs and humans are related, we could hypothesize that pigs might be a useful source of insulin for diabetics. Would you care to test that hypothesis and get back to us?
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
But how would you know? If you didn't think there was any biological relationship between humand and pigs, how would you make the connection? Remove ToE from human consciousness and pigs will still be a useful source of insulin for diabetics. Hint: Creationists didn't.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
CRR writes:
Creation is not a theory. It doesn't explain anything. All it does is claim that a giant invisible question mark created everything.
Creation is the theory that fits the facts.Evolution is the theory the facts don't fit.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
You have it backwards. Having rejected Creation, atheists have no chose but to accept some theory of evolution as a means of explaining the reality of life (as there are no other alternatives). I grew up in a very religious background. I was practically born in church. I could quote large swaths of the Bible literally before I could read. But as a teenager I tried to prove that the flood story was true and I discovered that it's impossible. The flood could not have happened. I have been sliding toward atheism (I won't admit to being there yet) BECAUSE of the lame attempts by religionists to prove the lie of creation. But you are right about there being no alternative to evolution. Creation isn't even a close second.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
I wonder how many on that roster would be considered "true Christians" by YOU. You're famous for citing the accomplishments of Christians while conveniently forgetting that they were RC, CoE, etc. whom YOU don't consider real Christians.
The roster of truly great people who became believers after a long time of typical worldly indoctrination proves you wrong.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Thanks for your honesty. Since you admit to being anti-science, I presume you agree that creationism shouldn't be taught in science classes.
Science is overrated and subject to delusion.
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