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Author | Topic: Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
0 So, genetics actually support evolution. Only by ignoring the fact that to get new phenotypes requires losing the genetic underpinnings of other phenotypes, for a net loss of genetic diversity as selection continues to create new species. If evolution requires losing genetic diversity eventually evolution has to come to a stop. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
What you consider to be a scientific conclusion is actually an absurd extrapolation - observed small changes mean big changes are possible. Taq writes:
After weighing up the evidence you have come to the conclusion that universal common descent is a fact. But I disagree - it's not a fact, but an absurd extrapolation.
Can you please point to any post where I used any such extrapolation? You seem to be making stuff up. When you feel the need to attack the messenger because you don't like the message, it is a good sign that you can't refute the message. I think my hypotheis is worth serious consideration: "This extrapolation was inspired by an hallucination induced by an overdose of peyote that Charles Darwin experienced while in South America. He then used the hallucination as the basis for his first science-fiction novel." It explains everything. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Taq writes:
Thank you for providing this example of you arriving at what you think is a scientific conclusion, but is in fact an absurd extrapolation.
The accumulation of mutations like the one that produced new coloration in moths is exactly the pathway that results in massive biological change.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Talk Origins describes Universal Common Descent as a "hypothesis". So I was wrong to call it a "theory" - way too generous. Taq writes:
Not scientific ... rather, atheistic.
So you admit that Universal Common Descent is scientific?
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5948 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Faith, please stop pulling your typical crap. We both know that that has been explained to you over and over again and yet you persist in keeping yourself willfully ignorant.
You know I have no patience for the stupid crap that you are pulling, so let's just stop it right here.
Learn something!
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Of course not. An explanation can be true yet useless to applied science. Taq writes:
What I'm going on about about is, scientific explanations can be wrong. I like science that produces a practical use, because then you know that the principles involved are more or less correct.
Then what are you going on about?
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5948 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Not scientific ... rather, atheistic. You really like to throw that word around, "atheistic". I have to wonder whether you even have any clue what it means and especially whether you are able to tell whether something is actually atheistic or not. So then, yet again, explain why you consider that idea to be "atheistic."
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Coyote writes:
Except when science is abused as a front for atheistic philosophy, which is what ToE does.
Science does quite well for itself. It may make errors but it has mechanisms built in to correct those errors.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5948 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
This is how your quoting should have looked:
Taq writes: Dredge writes: Then what are you going on about? Of course not. An explanation can be true yet useless to applied science. So you can nest qs quote boxes however deeply you would want to. Click on the Peek button of this message to see how. Doing it correctly will make your replies much clearer ... except for the poor quality content. Edited by dwise1, : " ... except for ..."
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2127 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Except when science is abused as a front for atheistic philosophy, which is what ToE does. You're getting as bad and irrelevant as DavidJay. Lately you're nothing more than a troll.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Well, ToE is actually an invention of Satan; but it is transmitted to the world at large by atheists. Out of the Enlightenment came a tsunami of atheism. It's was only a matter of time before a pseudo-scientific creation story came along to make all these atheists feel "intellectually fulfilled". It's so obvious. Why can't you see it? So then, yet again, explain why you consider that idea to be "atheistic." Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5948 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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Cut the bullshit!!
Why do you consider it atheistic? Be very specific in giving your reasons.
It's so obvious. Why can't you see it? What is obvious is how far your head is wedged in and how deeply deluded you are. Of course, if you truly think that you are not deluded, then you can explain your reasoning in having made your determinations. If you cannot, then you have never actually thought it through and you are deluded. Show us that you are not deluded.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Coyote writes:
That's not a very nice thing to say. The cult you have willingly joined doesn't like dissenters who shine lights in their dark dungeons. You are childishly deluded if you think the purpose of ToE is to advance science.
Lately you're nothing more than a troll.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
That's not a very nice thing to say.
Cut the bullshit!! Why do you consider it atheistic? Be very specific in giving your reasons.
Well, ToE is actually an invention of Satan; but it is transmitted to the world at large by atheists. Out of the Enlightenment came a tsunami of atheism. It's was only a matter of time before a pseudo-scientific creation story came along to make all these atheists feel "intellectually fulfilled". It's so obvious. Why can't you see it?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Thanks for the tip.
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