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Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Pressie
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Message 865 of 1311 (815176)
07-17-2017 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 857 by CRR
07-16-2017 6:19 PM


Re: Insecticide resistance
CRR writes:
Of course nobody in this forum would do such a thing but this slippery meaning of the word evolution provides many opportunities for bait and switch tactics.
This one is funny to me. A YEC who thinks that semantics are used as science.

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Pressie
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Message 883 of 1311 (815262)
07-18-2017 5:50 AM
Reply to: Message 850 by Dredge
07-15-2017 7:52 PM


Re: define "species"
This one is funny to me.
Dredge writes:
Notice that breeders have not managed to produce black or red budgies...
Really? Look up Jaap Marais. He was a white supremacist politician who did manage to breed black budgies.
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Pressie
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Message 886 of 1311 (815265)
07-18-2017 6:02 AM
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07-18-2017 5:54 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
Not really. I agree with Taq.
The theory of evolution describes the mechanisms involved in life changing over time.

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Pressie
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Message 887 of 1311 (815266)
07-18-2017 6:04 AM
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07-18-2017 6:00 AM


Re: Black Budgie
Really? From The Economist?

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Pressie
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Message 888 of 1311 (815268)
07-18-2017 6:08 AM
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07-18-2017 12:58 AM


Re: Interesting question...
Dredge writes:
The general theory of evolution says all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor.
Nope. I can't find any reference to "The general theory of evolution' except from a book written by someone in the sixties. That guy also had a 'Special theory of evolution' in the same book.

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Message 890 of 1311 (815274)
07-18-2017 7:10 AM
Reply to: Message 889 by RAZD
07-18-2017 7:04 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
Something I got from this forum, though I can't remember where and when, was:
Why is it that religious people use "religion" as a term of abuse? It seems paradoxical. If I wanted to insult creationism, I wouldn't do so by calling it science.
So true.

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Pressie
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Message 892 of 1311 (815276)
07-18-2017 8:35 AM
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07-18-2017 12:58 AM


Re: Interesting question...
Dredge writes:
Forget Darwinism for a sec. The general theory of evolution says all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor.
I don't know the general theory of evolution. It's something foreign to me.
Dredge writes:
This is a theory of universal common ancestry, isn't it?
Not really. Some forms of life (difficult to define) found in and around the MOR's don't adhere to that general "rule" you set out.

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Pressie
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Message 894 of 1311 (815280)
07-18-2017 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 893 by New Cat's Eye
07-18-2017 8:43 AM


are doing ity by Re: Insecticide resistance
He-he-he
They automatically do it by calling scientific theories 'faith'. Not many of the average creationists on this forum seem intelligent enough to get why it's such a ridiculously stupid argument.
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Pressie
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Message 916 of 1311 (815335)
07-19-2017 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 907 by Dredge
07-18-2017 11:28 PM


Re: Black Budgie
This one is just as funny.
Dredge writes:
Darwinists are so gullible.
I don't consider myself a Darwinist; I accept the mechanisms involved in evolutionary theory as practised today. It includes natural selection as one of the mechanisms. Darwin was brilliant in his day with the limited amount of information he had available. So, I don't find you calling me a Darwinist as an insult. I wish I had his brilliance.
If you really want to insult me then call me a Newtonist. I would not appreciate that one at all with my satellite phone and GPS and stuff like like working so well on Einstein's theories...

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Pressie
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Message 919 of 1311 (815340)
07-19-2017 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 918 by JonF
07-19-2017 9:33 AM


Re: Interesting question...
Yes, and creationists keep on quoting Kerkut as if nobody else in the world can read that book for free on what my aged mother calls 'The Interwebs'.
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Pressie
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Message 920 of 1311 (815342)
07-19-2017 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 917 by Porosity
07-19-2017 9:30 AM


Re: Interesting question...
Porosity, don't be so bad on him. At least I read quite a few real scientific articles on Genetics because of the false claims Dredge keeps on making. Not that I understand much of it, but, even for a novice like me, it's easy to point out the false claims Dredge made.
Hey, I even passed a first year course in genetics at Uni because of the ridiculously stupid things creationists tend to
write about everything.

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Pressie
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Message 952 of 1311 (815443)
07-20-2017 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 949 by CRR
07-20-2017 7:55 AM


Re: seven "assumptions"
CRR writes:
Follow the links.
I did. Nothing in there contradicts evolutionary theory.

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Pressie
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Message 969 of 1311 (815535)
07-21-2017 4:29 AM
Reply to: Message 961 by Dredge
07-21-2017 12:27 AM


Re: Interesting question...
Dredge writes:
You forgot to mention the widdle ol' fact that "common ancestry" is an assumption...
Nope. The opposite. It's a conclusion.
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Pressie
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Message 970 of 1311 (815536)
07-21-2017 4:35 AM
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07-21-2017 4:15 AM


Re: Let's call this the Genesis 2:7 message
OMG, CRR. Most people here don't have the mentality of a kindergarten child. You using different colours and fonts and stuff like that trying to impress people shows your mentality.

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Pressie
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Message 1040 of 1311 (815752)
07-24-2017 6:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1038 by CRR
07-24-2017 4:17 AM


Re: Historical Science
Not at all.
CRR writes:
How about an example? We see fossils in the rocks (A).
The oldest fossils of what we call life are the fossils of prokaryotes. We have those fossils in WA, SA and Greenland. They are found in rocks 3 800 million to 3 500 million years old. They are not wales nor humans nor cockroaches or anything like that. They are prokaryotes. The rocks they are found in were deposited under sea water. Exhibit A.
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