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Tanypteryx
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Message 61 of 64 (808165)
05-08-2017 6:00 PM


‘Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care’
‘Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care’

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Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) was drowned out by constituents’ booing at a town hall in Lewiston, Idaho on Friday after saying that lacking access to health care never caused anyone to die.
Labrador made the statement in response to a question from a woman in the audience, who said that taking health care away from people on Medicaid was tantamount to asking them to die.

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“That line is so indefensible,” Labrador said. “Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care.”

On Saturday, Labrador posted a statement on the exchange, saying that his response “wasn’t very elegant” and criticizing the media coverage.



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Message 62 of 64 (808185)
05-08-2017 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Tanypteryx
05-08-2017 6:00 PM


Re: ‘Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care’
The Medicaid expansion would be a powerful thing except for the fact that it was deliberately underfunded by Obama and the Democrats.

The underfunded expansion enabled the vast majority of Republican controlled states to reject the expansion.

However:

Enough did expand Medicaid so that there will be enough suffering in GOP states - if cuts are significant enough - to cause Republicans to challenge and oppose Trump's recent House passed bill.

At least four Republican Senators are against the Medicaid changes.

Gardner of Colorado.

Portman of Ohio.

Capito of West Virginia.

I think Collins of Maine.

Even conservative Democrat Joe Manchin has come out very strongly against the Medicaid cuts. (He is dead as a doornail in 2018, now that Tom Perez has said Pro Lifers aren't welcome in the party, plus he supported anti-gun leglslation)

The Manchin situation will see the last West Virginia Democratic voice, perhaps, spend his last gasping breaths uttering words of doom and gloom over the anti-Medicaid disaster that is Trumpcare.

Democratic chances of getting any real traction are close to nill until Tom Perez is removed from his position as party chair.


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Message 63 of 64 (815402)
07-19-2017 11:32 PM
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02-04-2017 11:31 PM


cancelled post
moving to more appropriate thread

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 64 of 64 (815409)
07-20-2017 1:20 AM
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05-08-2017 11:49 PM


Re: ‘Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care’
The underfunded expansion enabled the vast majority of Republican controlled states to reject the expansion.

The reasons for the refusal of states like North Carolina to expand medicaid are well known. They have little to do with the states finding the federal money extremely unhelpful and too small. The overwhelming majority (32 of 50) of states found the money extremely helpful.

Further, the original plan included both carrot and stick to encourage states to adopt the expansion. The Supreme Court held the stick part of the bargain to be unconstitutional and left states free to reject the expansion. Many states like North Carolina, elected, to the detriment of their populations and their in state hospitals, to reject the expansion because well Obama. The incoming NC governor has proposed taking the money, but the Republican controlled legislature said no because, Obama.

Kentucky actually accepted the money only to have the incoming governor close down the state exchanges because, well yes, Obama.

You believe that even more federal funding would make a difference? Well given the fact that Republican leadership opposes the ACA as socialism and wealth transfer, the idea that some more government money would help is unsupportable. You are welcome to try.

Enough did expand Medicaid so that there will be enough suffering in GOP states - if cuts are significant enough - to cause Republicans to challenge and oppose Trump's recent House passed bill.

This prediction turned out to be true. As of this date, every Republican plan has failed in the senate. Part of that is because of complaints from state governors.


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