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Author Topic:   Latest on the Republicans' war against health care
JonF
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Message 23 of 51 (815038)
07-14-2017 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Faith
07-14-2017 1:29 PM


Re: Newest Senate proposal
They're lying about the ACA. There's been several reports released by Trump's agencies recently concluding the ACA is doing pretty well but needs improvement.
Sorry you're on Medicaid. Better start planning for doing without it. And paying more for Medicare. Lots more. We seniors are their primary target.

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JonF
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Message 43 of 51 (815617)
07-21-2017 8:43 PM


OUT OF ORDER: Senate Parliamentarian Guts Repeal And Replace Effort
quote:
Here's the high-level overview of some of what they can't pass with 51 votes:
Defund Planned Parenthood
Remove tax credits for policies that cover abortion care
Dropping Essential Health Benefits (EHB) coverage for Medicaid
Requiring a "six-month lockout" for anyone whose coverage lapses
Allowing states to determine the Medical Loss Ratio (what insurers can spend on overhead and marketing instead of health care)
Allowing states to roll over unused Medicaid block grant funds to the following year and spend them on anything, including things which are unrelated to health care.
State-specific buyoffs like the House-based "Buffalo buyout"
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

  
JonF
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Message 44 of 51 (815947)
07-26-2017 5:05 PM


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What’s truly remarkable isn’t that a bunch of cynical politicians thought they could ride their base voters’ anger into control of Congress by lying to them about what they could actually accomplish; it’s that their voters actually believed it. And then those voters got even angrier when it turned out that the president had the ability to veto bills passed by a Congress controlled by the other party. Who knew! So instead of looking for a presidential candidate who would treat them like adults, they elected Donald Trump, a man who would pander to their gullibility even more.
Which brings us to where we are today. Republicans couldn’t be bothered for seven years to actually think about what repealing and replacing the ACA might involve, or whether there would be trade-offs and choices to make, or whether setting up a system that accorded with their conservative philosophy might not actually solve the problems of the health-care system. They thought it would be enough to tell their voters to get mad, and worry later about what it would take to keep the promises they made.
So now they find themselves with a bill that nearly everyone hates. If it passes (in whatever form), it will be a disaster for the health-care system and will be a political disaster for them as well. But they’ve convinced themselves that the only thing worse politically would be to not pass anything, because that would incur the wrath of those same base voters. In other words, their current position is, We know how catastrophic this bill would be. But we got here by lying to these knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers for years, and if we don’t follow through, they’ll punish us. They believe that their voters will say, Okay, so I lost my health coverage because of you, but you’ll get my vote again because you kept your promise.
That’s not to say that there isn’t plenty of outright malice in what Republicans are doing, because there is. Their contempt for people who struggle economically is boundless. They’ve wanted to destroy Medicaid for decades, and they just might be able to do it. But their strongest motivation right now is fear, fear of the voters they regard as too dim-witted to be able to make a rational judgment about the most consequential policy question one can imagine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...t-their-voters-like-morons

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Message 46 of 51 (815973)
07-27-2017 8:56 AM



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