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JonF
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Message 46 of 51 (815973)
07-27-2017 8:56 AM


Alask will PAY!

Trump administration signals that Murkowski’s health care vote could have energy repercussions for Alaska


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Message 47 of 51 (815985)
07-27-2017 12:00 PM
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07-27-2017 8:56 AM


The politics on display here are among the most vindictive, petty, infantile behavior imaginable.

First and foremost, an objective view is that the Republic direction on health care is out of touch with what most voters want. Secondly, the Republicans have yet to advance a plan that works for their own senators.

As punishment for saying no to such plans, the administration threatens consequences for the state of Alaska. From the article:

quote:
Early Wednesday, Trump took to Twitter to express displeasure with Murkowski's vote. By that afternoon, each of Alaska's two Republican senators had received a phone call from Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke letting them know the vote had put Alaska's future with the administration in jeopardy.

Alaska Sen. Dan Sullivan said the call from Zinke heralded a "troubling message."

"I'm not going to go into the details, but I fear that the strong economic growth, pro-energy, pro-mining, pro-jobs and personnel from Alaska who are part of those policies are going to stop," Sullivan said.

I tried to push back on behalf of all Alaskans. … We're facing some difficult times and there's a lot of enthusiasm for the policies that Secretary Zinke and the president have been talking about with regard to our economy. But the message was pretty clear," Sullivan said. The Interior secretary also contacted Murkowski,


This childish behavior comes straight from the top or the administration. I wonder what Trump has planned for your state if your Senator happens to be a Democrat if he treats one of his own like this.

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Message 48 of 51 (815987)
07-27-2017 12:26 PM
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07-27-2017 12:00 PM


NoNukes writes:

First and foremost, an objective view is that the Republic direction on health care is out of touch with what most voters want.

It is out of touch with their own rhetoric. They claim that they have to repeal Obamacare because it is failing, as defined by the lack of providers in many areas. Their solution? Get rid of regulations, mandates, and subsidies that prop up those markets which only ensures that they will fail. Their solution is to make it worse.

As punishment for saying no to such plans, the administrations threatens consequences for the state of Alaska.

Trump has yet to figure out that making deals to enrich himself is not the same as making deals that improve the lives of Americans.


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Message 49 of 51 (816040)
07-28-2017 9:44 AM
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07-27-2017 12:26 PM


Repeal fails in Senate
So much for Il Donald's threats. Despite the rhetoric, several Republican senators have voted against the latest repeal.

quote:
Republicans' seven-year quest to wipe out President Obama's Affordable Care Act came to a crashing halt around 1:30 this morning, when Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) shockingly bucked his party and voted against a scaled-down repeal bill that emerged as the Senate's last-ditch effort. It's now clear that replacing Obamacare -- or even repealing small parts of it -- may be forever a pipe dream for President Trump and the GOP, whose deep divisions over the U.S. health-care system proved unbridgeable in the end.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...t/597a46ec30fb045fdaef0fd2

I wonder if McCain has decided that at this stage in his life, facing the prospect of battling cancer, that he would just prefer to give Trump the proverbial middle finger and not tow the party line.


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Message 50 of 51 (816045)
07-28-2017 10:39 AM
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07-28-2017 9:44 AM


Re: Repeal fails in Senate
So much for Il Donald's threats. Despite the rhetoric, several Republican senators have voted against the latest repeal

Sadly I think any effort by dems, should they by some miracle regain house and senate and whitehouse, to improve the ACA, even for adding a "public option" is similarly doomed to fail. Unless people stand up and demand single payer state by state it will never happen.

Because money in politics is against it.

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Message 51 of 51 (816046)
07-28-2017 10:39 AM
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07-28-2017 9:44 AM


Re: Repeal fails in Senate
Diomedes writes:

I wonder if McCain has decided that at this stage in his life, facing the prospect of battling cancer, that he would just prefer to give Trump the proverbial middle finger and not tow the party line.

If memory serves, this was going to be McCain's last term anyway. The Furor may regret saying that McCain was not a war hero.


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