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RAZD
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Message 976 of 989 (815583)
07-21-2017 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 975 by Faith
07-21-2017 11:05 AM


Re: PC definitions continued
Thank you for proving my point.

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Message 977 of 989 (815584)
07-21-2017 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 972 by Faith
07-21-2017 9:24 AM


Re: what's really going on
I never offend in those ways

Oh, right.

The whole thing was innocent, there are no ethical or criminal implications whatever except in the feverish minds of leftists

Were leftists born with some kind of brain damage that prevents them from making meaningful distinctions?

There is no racism in the Trump administration, it's all hallucinated by idiot leftists following the formula of Cultural Marxism.

No, the "politeness" which is really conformist intimidation, only applies to the "oppressed class" as falsely and tendentiously and politically defined by Leftists.

The only violence I ever heard of was against the violent evil Leftists who crashed his rallies.

You are indeed flirting with treason, and so are many Leftists.

But of course Marx hated Christianity and so do most of today's Leftists.

I guess you just can't see how mentally challenged your thinking is. Leftists seem to have difficulty making logical distinctions and reading in context.

Why are Leftists so mentally challenged?

There have been direct calls to murder Trump, nobody interprets namecalling as calls for murder except of course crazy Leftists.

You just have no perspective whatever. But then Leftists don't.

The Left is out of control, there has never been anything before like the Left's attack on President Trump, by the media, by political leaders, by entertainment people, all the Leftists out there.

Leftists however love to moralize and try to skewer people with moralistic accusations, most of them made up out of the Marxist playbook rather than the Bible, but you aren't at all hesitant about accusing people of sins from the Bible either, misapplying them with a heavy hand.

You are a bigot, you are intolerant of decent people obeying God, you put yourself above perfectly decent people, like so many other leftists, call people names who do not deserve it.

There is no civility from Leftists at all.

You spend a lot of time, just as Leftists always do, conjuring up anything you can to accuse conservatives of.

Logically you live in la-la land like most Leftists, and the irrationality and illogic of it all are maybe the hardest part of being attacked by anti-Christian laws.

You are acting just like all Leftists act on this

I don't care what your exact political position is you are thinking like all the Leftists here on PC.

I really don't know if you liberals/leftists are mentally deficient or so locked into your leftist bubble you have had no exposure to things we on the right have known for years, but the point is that Political Correctness was Mao's term for the Party Line that had to be toed by everyone or else.

Leftists really have so little to say of any importance.

Percy says he's not a liberal, just a good judge of craziness, but he sounds exactly like all the Leftists and doesn't care that all the people who voted for Trump disagree vehemently with his assessment.

Why oh why can't leftists think?

Why can't Leftists tell the difference between a socially determined attitude and a natural fact.

There's no way for me to have lost such an argument with an idiot atheist Leftist.

It's the Left that is racist, always making a big deal out of the irrelevance of race. The problem is the murdering thuggery. Why can't leftists THINK?

what Political Correctness really is, as I've carefully defined it over many many threads by now, which only now is being called into question

I doubt it hasn't been challenged before. However, words are for communication, and your personal definition is wrong and inhibits communication.

and have nothing to do with the fact that the Left calls people by all those names that ARE PC, that you called me in that post that started this whole mess.

I called a spade a spade. I was not politically correct. I was accurate and truthful.

The whole point, OBVIOUSLY, is to make it impossible to oppose political positions

You can oppose those positions as much as you want in any legal manner. When you do so with lies and unearned calumny we have the right to call you on it.

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


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Message 978 of 989 (815585)
07-21-2017 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 976 by RAZD
07-21-2017 11:18 AM


Re: PC definitions continued
Seems to me you just proved mine.
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Message 979 of 989 (815586)
07-21-2017 11:24 AM
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07-21-2017 11:21 AM


Re: what's really going on
Your post proves your definition of PC as rude language is bogus. And again, since when is "Leftist" a protected victim class that renders objections to it a PC offense?
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Message 980 of 989 (815587)
07-21-2017 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 975 by Faith
07-21-2017 11:05 AM


Re: PC definitions continued
No, the term "Islamophobia" is just a way of saying there is no rational objection to Islam,

Yup. And you are an Islamophobe. Thinking you have justification for your hatred is not establishing justification for you hatred. No, you haven't ever tried to justify your hatred, just repeated your claims over and over and over and over again.


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Message 981 of 989 (815588)
07-21-2017 11:26 AM
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07-21-2017 11:24 AM


Re: PC definitions continued
Unfortunately, as I concluded, there is no way to have a discussion with a Leftist since the language itself is corrupted. You aren't interested in ideas, just in hating and undermining your opponent. Interestingly the PC terms you try to smear me with DO apply to you, and probably the Left in general.

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Message 982 of 989 (815590)
07-21-2017 11:29 AM
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07-21-2017 11:24 AM


Re: what's really going on
Your post proves your definition of PC as rude language is bogus

Explanation why?

And again, since when is "Leftist" a protected victim class that renders objections to it a PC offense?

First time you have brought up protected classes here. You are very confused.

A "protected class" is a term in law denoting a group of people with a common characteristic who are legally protected from discrimination on the basis of that characteristic.

PC is not a term used in law and, as I have proved, is understood by English speakers to mean respect for others.

The two concepts are not connected in any way other than the fact that many protected classes are often subjected to non-PC insults.

"PC offences" are characterized by being antithetical to the definitions I've provided. There's no governing body handing down findings.

Edited by JonF, : First quote edited

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Message 983 of 989 (815592)
07-21-2017 11:32 AM
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07-21-2017 11:26 AM


Re: PC definitions continued
I got nuthin' so I'll flounce

FIFY.


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Message 984 of 989 (815603)
07-21-2017 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 978 by Faith
07-21-2017 11:21 AM


Re: PC definitions continued
Of course you think that Faith. In your little closed bubble world where only you are correct, everyone else is lying being horrid.

It's funny how you keep coming back to assert your position.

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Message 985 of 989 (815614)
07-21-2017 7:59 PM
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07-21-2017 2:36 PM


Re: PC definitions continued
Leftists are weird. It's got nothing to do with me "being right," it's about the objective factual meaning of Political Correctness, which I've shown many times before, and what is now being trotted out on this thread as a different definition is simply bogus. Why can't Leftists think?
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Message 986 of 989 (815638)
07-22-2017 2:15 AM
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07-21-2017 7:59 PM


Re: PC definitions continued
I've tried to stay out this, but.

quote:

Leftists are weird.

There is nothing weird in seeing things that contradict what YOU want to be true.

quote:

it's about the objective factual meaning of Political Correctness, which I've shown many times before, and what is now being trotted out on this thread as a different definition is simply bogus.

The idea of a phrase having an "objective factual meaning" is weird. However, to the extent that that is so, JonF did a far better job than you, citing a number of neutral sources of generally good quality - while you prefer a hit piece. In addition I'm sure that I am not the only one who remembers the'80s and '90s and can confirm what JonF's sources say. Message 971

And this is hardly the first discussion of the subject.

quote:

Why can't Leftists think?

It is funny how you always equate disagreement with a lack of thought when thinking will almost always (maybe always) show that you are wrong.


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Message 987 of 989 (815645)
07-22-2017 9:30 AM
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07-22-2017 2:15 AM


Re: PC definitions continued
I must admit that the right has largely succeeded in "corrupting" the language, from PC meaning respect for others to PC meaning something evil and non-PC being an excuse for any hateful speech or action.
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Message 988 of 989 (815646)
07-22-2017 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 985 by Faith
07-21-2017 7:59 PM


Now we have "Faith Correctness" defined
Leftists are weird. ...

It's quite obvious that a lot of people have views significantly different from yours. That doesn't make them weird. You see them as weird because you have trouble conceiving of thinking differently.

... Why can't Leftists think?

Again, quite obviously everyone on this forum can think ... so you can stop with the passive aggressive gratuitous insults of ill-defined broad brush of groups of people you don't like ... many people on this forum have multiple degrees, degrees that you can't earn without demonstrating the ability to think clearly and rationally. What's your degree again?

... what you actually mean is why can't "leftists" think like you do ... and the obvious answer is because they don't have to -- nobody needs to conform to your little bubble world of proper "Faith correctness" thinking.

... It's got nothing to do with me "being right," it's about the objective factual meaning of Political Correctness, which I've shown many times before, and what is now being trotted out on this thread as a different definition is simply bogus. ...

The irony. It has nothing to do with you "being right" you say ... and then you go on to insist that you are right about the "objective factual meaning of Political Correctness ... LOLZ

The fact is that you are patently wrong about many topics and issues, you just have trouble swallowing your pride and admitting it. Pride goeth before the fall.

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Message 989 of 989 (816161)
07-30-2017 4:13 PM


Still as foolish as ever, Moose
Moose,

Regarding your comment in Message 1143:

Same statement to you as to CRR: Why am I not surprised that you didn't do your homework before you started making claims?

it's still the responsibility of the person making the assertion to supply link(s)/reference(s) (and ?) to support the assertion.

You will notice that I provided the references asked for. The fact that I think CRR should have done his homework first does not alter that fact. Are you honestly complaining that I actually provided the references he asked for? It was in the very post to which you were responding. Didn't you read it?

That said, you will notice that I did so even though others had already provided references. Or have you forgotten RAZD's comments (Message 1010)? You did recall that CRR asked for RAZD to pick which one he thought was the best example (Message 1027), yes? And he made that request of RAZD the day before he responded to my post reiterating that we can create self-replicating, auto-catalysing, homochiral molecules that evolve. Thus, he had already been given some of the information he was looking for and was intimating that he had at least glanced at it.

So it seems your foolishness is the same as it has always been: You didn't read the thread you're moderating. Stop letting your animosity toward me color your reactions.


Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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