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Not all of us live in Oregon. Many of us have to live with state governments whose legislatures think that Trump is the cat's pajamas. I cannot simply ignore Trump. Your mileage may vary.

Trump has had an incredibly rocky two weeks, and his poll numbers are beginning to show signs of erosion of Republican support.

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Trump's numbers declined more among Republicans than they did among Democrats, who had already viewed the President unfavorably. In late June, 84% of Republicans approved of Trump's performance -- now, 76% of Republicans say the same. Seventeen percent of Republicans now say they disapprove of the way Trump is performing in the job.

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Now 76% represents a huge amount of base support. But I think Trump needs mid to high 80 numbers here if the face of the poor support from independents. So this week's numbers appear to have crossed an ugly line. More data needed to see if these numbers represent a trend.

Are they not amazing poll numbers ? The most amazing and best poll numbers an American President has ever received ?

Fake news! It's all rigged!

The Mueller investigation seems to be heating up. Mueller impanels Washington grand jury in Russia probe: Wall Street Journal

it's promising but as I've learned from the Law and Order school of law, a good prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

So someone leaked a transcript of the telephone conversation between Trump and Australia's Prime Minister Turnbull, it is insightful to say the least. Trumps monstrous ego was on display along with a general incoherence and inability to understand a point. On the other side of the fence, our PM doesn't give two hoots about the people's lives he's playing with, only maintaining face and party policy. That's how our 'leaders' operate, all image, no substance.

I think you are being overly critical of your Prime Minister. He knows that the US has already vetted those folks and will likely have to take all of them. If Trump decides to redo the process of vetting and reject those folks, there really is not diddly squat that Australia can do about it.In short, he's just keeping it real. Our president, on the other hand, is whining about looking bad. He used the same narcissistic approach with the president of Mexico. Your PM tried to give Trump some PR advice, but in the end, he insisted that Trump use real numbers instead of fake ones (2000-5000) and he was adamant Trump keep his country's promises. Trump agreed to do just that.

Who talks like that?

As far as I know, only one person on the planet out of 7.5 billion.The good part is we know this is NOT fake news. Anyone who has watched 5 minutes of Don speaking knows this is exactly how he speaks.On top of all his other personality disorders, we can also see that he is totally daft.

I still blame Trump on the Bernie or bust people who pushed Hillary too far to the left, causing a right swing in the rest of the country.

Did you read the whole thing? Turnbull was firm (you have to be with children) and got what 'Australia' wanted but he also appeared to be handing Trump a blank cheque regarding Australia returning the favour; In order to stop people who arrive by boat we detain them offshore at great expense for years and then once they're vetted we send them to the US and take 'anyone you want us to take' in return. It's not about protecting Australians from anything, in fact, he's willing to put us in danger to keep his anti-boat people policy. Take our vetted boat people and give us your nutjobs.The logic behind the policy is that if we don't let boat people re-settle here under any circumstance then they won't bother coming in the first place. That we're re-settling them in other first world countries seems a little self-defeating really, the horrible conditions we detain them in during the vetting process becomes the only real deterrent.Here is the Facebook comment I found that link on; I certainly don't agree that Trump looked good and I can't see where Turnbull 'negotiated terribly' but he was certainly underhanded. Turnbull is tough on boat people because it plays on the underlying racism in Australia and wins votes, meanwhile, he's happy to let in upto 200k skilled immigrants each year while Australia has an un/der-employment problem. My dissatisfaction stems from a general weariness of pointless political rhetoric and the absence of meaningful policy.Edited by Riggamortis, : No reason given.

Actually no. I assumed you had quoted enough to make your points. Yeah, I see that there is quite a bit more going on and a quick bit of research does paint Turnbull in a lot worse light that did the lines you quoted in your first post. I admit to not following what is going on in Australia all that closely. Thanks for responding to my question.

Bernie should've run as an independent. I can understand people's frustration with Trumps regressive LBGT policies and general stupidity but I'm not convinced Hillary would have been better, all thing considered. Her planned invasion of Syria and the possible consequences of such a move, for example.

Too much material to choose from and I didn't think anyone would care about me criticising Turnbull. The whole thing is an interesting insight into the way they operate behind closed doors. Trump is the same, a bumbling fool. Turnbull is a cunning scumbag, confirming what most of Australia already knew.I think Trump genuinely has a messiah complex given that he is no more humble when speaking to other world leaders. I can understand him using rhetoric like this against political opponents but with those you have to 'make deals' with? Also funny considering Turnbull was born upper-middle class and is now worth some $90M. Trump isn't even really that successful in the grand scheme of things.