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Author Topic:   What do you think of the evidence for psychic abilities?
Phat
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Message 3 of 37 (816862)
08-12-2017 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by LamarkNewAge
08-11-2017 12:01 PM


Sike Ick Data
It is my understanding that there is--as yet---no conclusive evidence.
That being said, there are many claims of supernatural manifestations---both in organized religion and in pseudo-spirituality.
I read a good article in Psychology Today...Do Psychic Phenomena Exist?...in which the author ( Steve Taylor Ph.D.)suggests several reasons why he personally thinks such phenomena could exist:
  • Philosophical Reasons.
  • Consciousness.
  • Quantum Physics.
  • Empirical Evidence
  • Personal Experience
    Click on the link for his explanations.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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    Phat
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    Message 32 of 37 (817257)
    08-16-2017 8:02 AM
    Reply to: Message 27 by LamarkNewAge
    08-15-2017 5:30 PM


    What Do You Think? (You go first)
    See the links.
    They are actually quite detailed.
    A word about links. This is only my opinion, but I usually personally only post a link that I myself think is interesting to read...and I tend to go with lighter fare. My reasoning is that people here at EvC are more interested in what I have to say and believe based on a person rather than based on any facts I can dredge up. Granted I am a legend only in my own mind, and am probably quite dull to some people here...but they at least know about me and what I think about versus voluminous links which they usually won't read anyway. (same for you Tube videos) My point is that I feel more comfortable hearing what you personally have to say rather than any link that you provide.
    LNA writes:
    My links have available data, that can be read by all. And they aren't fringe sources. (despite the voluminous and at times silly subject matter)
    To be honest, the voluminous subject matter bores me...especially in your links on religious issues. I would be more interested in your beliefs if you presented them with some brief reasoning from you personally as to why you feel that you are on the path that you are on. I don't simply want to know you as "that annoying links guy who I think believes in zoroastrianism.." I am more interested in why you believe (or don't believe) the links that you provide for us to read.
    Lets take this topic that you started.
    LNA writes:
    I knew that single paste would get me in trouble. The voluminous use of psychics shows the very real interest of the government, and there is detailed analysis and number crunching of the success and failure of Operation Grill Flame and others.
    Skip the detailed analysis and number crunching. What do you personally think about the data that you have researched? Why are you impressed with what you are impressed with?
    LNA writes:
    There is some controversy as to whether recently declassified documents present the whole truth.
    I just found this out doing a google search (based on a N. Y. Post Story I read months ago, infact I saved the actual story in a plastic ziplock bag), but the sites wont let me paste.
    So quit with the excessive pasting already! Tell us what impressed you about the story.
    LNA writes:
    I don't know how much this topic needs to be discussed, but does anybody have any observations?
    Have any knowledge of what Dr. Fish might be talking about?
    Any thoughts?
    You started the topic, so it is up to you to speak first. What do you personally believe about psychics? What (in your own words) have you read and why were you impressed (or skeptical)?
    I'm sure Matthew 24 might be able to be made relevant. Or Isaiah and Kings?
    Is that specifically regarding psychics or is that another topic?
    Edited by Phat, : editing

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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