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JonF
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Message 1081 of 1368 (816860)
08-12-2017 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1078 by marc9000
08-11-2017 8:16 PM


Re: Trump's accomplishments
Well, the link is broken, but it looks as if it's this: U.S. Consumer Confidence Eases on Economic, Jobs Expectations

Of course NoNukes never promised any breakdown. But it's pretty obvious to what he referred (enlarged slightly if you click on it):

109 in Novemeber? Check.
115 in December? Sort of check, it's close.
General upward trend? Check

Ball's in yuor court.


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JonF
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Message 1082 of 1368 (816861)
08-12-2017 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1079 by marc9000
08-11-2017 8:37 PM


Re: Writing checks with your mouth, that your butt cannot cash..
Did Obama start a name-calling war with N. Korea? Nope.

Did Trump?

Yup. No matter the history, Trump started a name-calling war.

It's too bad that about 1/3 of the U.S. population, and about 90% of the press, HOPE that a military confrontation happens now with North Korea, if it provides them with a path to try to get Trump removed from office. That's the whole idea, the whole plan, they would sacrifice part of the U.S. to a nuclear attack, they would sacrifice any number of things that would be good for the U.S., if it would provide them with a way to get Trump out.

What color is the sky on your planet? War with Korea would in no way provide a path to get Trump out. (Personally I think Trump should stay; he's evil but incompetent. The next two, Pence and Ryan, are evil and really good at it.)


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NoNukes
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Message 1083 of 1368 (816863)
08-12-2017 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1082 by JonF
08-12-2017 9:05 AM


Re: Writing checks with your mouth, that your butt cannot cash..
What color is the sky on your planet?

Marc9000 lives on Conspiracy Planet. The world where emission controls are a left-wing plot to keep the white man down.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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14174dm
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Message 1084 of 1368 (816873)
08-12-2017 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1024 by marc9000
08-06-2017 4:38 PM


Re: Trump's accomplishments
yeah I'm behind the pile of responses but I can't resist.

02. 59 missiles dropped in Syria
And accomplished what? What is the follow up? Or has Trump's attention span expired?

04. Illegal immigration is now down 70% (the lowest is 17 years)
Results of long term trend with stable illegal population dating back to 2009
http://www.pewhispanic.org/...grants-holds-steady-since-2009

08. Bids for border wall are well underway.
Promised repeatedly to be paid for by Mexico. Anything done on that money? No because Trump knew it was a lie and simply pandered to the ignorant base. Wall is a waste of money when enforcement of visa departures would capture at least as many illegals. Enforcement of employment and financial rules would also be more effective but that is work so politicians won't do it.

21. Travel ban reinstated
Wait - I thought the whole point of the travel ban issued in JANUARY was to allow for review of procedures and enhanced investigation of travelers, refugees, etc. The review was supposed to take 120 days. So now that were way past the 120 days, what has the review shown? Why do we need the ban? Because the review was a sham and was never going to change procedures. It's all about pandering to the base without accomplishing anything.

41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.
42. Encouraged country to once again 'Buy American and Hire American!
This from the man whose businesses are actively working to get work visas instead of hiring locally. Posted a small ad for two days in local paper looking for workers. Maybe he just needs to pay a decent wage.


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NoNukes
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Message 1085 of 1368 (816885)
08-13-2017 12:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1082 by JonF
08-12-2017 9:05 AM


Re: Writing checks with your mouth, that your butt cannot cash..
War with Korea would in no way provide a path to get Trump out.

It was only a few months ago that wing-nuts were accusing Obama of starting a war with Russia so he could stay in office. Now the story is that starting a war would actually get you ousted from office.

Any port in a storm I guess. [1]

[1] Navyism from sailor NoNukes.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 1086 of 1368 (816886)
08-13-2017 1:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1084 by 14174dm
08-12-2017 12:40 PM


Re: Trump's accomplishments
yeah I'm behind the pile of responses but I can't resist.

Well, perhaps you can be the first to respond to this Trump accomplishment.

00. Inspired the advancement of the Doomsday Clock to the latest time setting in the last 64 years. 2 and 1/2 minutes until midnight.

I just noticed that my avatar is a little slow...


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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14174dm
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Message 1087 of 1368 (816922)
08-13-2017 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1086 by NoNukes
08-13-2017 1:27 AM


Re: Trump's accomplishments
00. Inspired the advancement of the Doomsday Clock to the latest time setting in the last 64 years. 2 and 1/2 minutes until midnight.

I don't think Trump has thought out where he goes with this war of words. Kim Jung Un is just going to keep bad mouthing Trump and testing missiles & nukes. Kim will keep getting closer & closer to war but not quite cross the line.

Trump is going to look weak unless he can actually do something rather than just rant.


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Stile
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Message 1088 of 1368 (816946)
08-14-2017 8:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1087 by 14174dm
08-13-2017 3:51 PM


Re: Trump's accomplishments
14174dm writes:

Trump is going to look weak unless he can actually do something rather than just rant.

"Going" to?

Ha ha
That's funny.


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Taq
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Message 1089 of 1368 (816978)
08-14-2017 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1079 by marc9000
08-11-2017 8:37 PM


Re: Writing checks with your mouth, that your butt cannot cash..
marc9000 writes:

Did Trump? Do you believe that the current problem we have with Kim Jong Un is Trump's fault?

Yes, Trump did start this really stupid and counterproductive chest beating nonsense.

The one thing that Trump can do to help prop up the dictatorship in N. Korea is to create the appearance that the US is going to attack them. The whole government in NK is built on the assumption that they have to pour everything they have into the military because they could be attacked at any moment, and Trump is doing everything he can to support that narrative. The more Trump acts like a bully, the more tightly they will cling to their nukes.


It's too bad that about 1/3 of the U.S. population, and about 90% of the press, HOPE that a military confrontation happens now with North Korea, if it provides them with a path to try to get Trump removed from office. That's the whole idea, the whole plan, they would sacrifice part of the U.S. to a nuclear attack, they would sacrifice any number of things that would be good for the U.S., if it would provide them with a way to get Trump out.

Seriously?

People are criticizing Trump because they don't want a war.


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DrJones*
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Message 1090 of 1368 (817174)
08-15-2017 5:08 PM


very fine people on both sides!?
RE: the Charlottesville violence

in a a recent news conference TrumP has claimed that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the altercation. He's wrong of course. On one side you had the counter protesters and on the other side you had FUCKING NAZIS. Sure the opposition wasn't all squeaky clean but they were opposing FUCKING NAZIS. You had a parade of sister fucking hillbillies and inbred cousin humpers, there wasn't a fine person in that bunch. Fuck nazis.

Punch a Nazi today.


It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1091 of 1368 (817179)
08-15-2017 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1090 by DrJones*
08-15-2017 5:08 PM


Re: very fine people on both sides!?
On one side you had the counter protesters and on the other side you had FUCKING NAZIS.

Are you saying there wasn't a single non-Nazi in the group?

Sure the opposition wasn't all squeaky clean but they were opposing FUCKING NAZIS. You had a parade of sister fucking hillbillies and inbred cousin humpers, there wasn't a fine person in that bunch.

And if the counter protesters hadn't showed up then nothing would have came of it and nobody would have gotten hurt, just like all the other KKK rallies that go on that nobody cares about.

Punch a Nazi today.

You're advocating violence against free speech that you dislike. Please stay in Canada.

If someone is saying something that you don't like, stay away and ignore them. Don't feed the flames you dinguses.


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DrJones*
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Message 1092 of 1368 (817182)
08-15-2017 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1091 by New Cat's Eye
08-15-2017 5:21 PM


Re: very fine people on both sides!?
Are you saying there wasn't a single non-Nazi in the group

if there were any non-nazis I sure hope they left when they realized they were siding with FUCKING NAZIS.

And if the counter protesters hadn't showed up then nothing would have came of it and nobody would have gotten hurt, just like all the other KKK rallies that go on that nobody cares about.

Ignoring nazis doesn't make them go away. The last time the nazis came into power they were defeated by people fighting them.

you're advocating violence against free speech that you dislike

no I'm advocating violence against nazis. They should be free to spout their shit, they should also expect to suffer some consequences.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Taq
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Message 1093 of 1368 (817185)
08-15-2017 5:30 PM
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08-15-2017 5:21 PM


Re: very fine people on both sides!?
New Cat's Eye writes:

And if the counter protesters hadn't showed up then nothing would have came of it and nobody would have gotten hurt, just like all the other KKK rallies that go on that nobody cares about.

Just as it was the Jews' fault for not moving out of the territory that the Nazis conquered. [/sarcasm]

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."--Edmund Burke, previously misattributed to Abe Lincoln

Edited by Taq, : No reason given.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1094 of 1368 (817193)
08-15-2017 5:39 PM
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08-15-2017 5:26 PM


Re: very fine people on both sides!?
if there were any non-nazis I sure hope they left when they realized they were siding with FUCKING NAZIS.

Or the neo-nazis were siding with them... If neo-nazis love maple syrup does Canada need to stop eating it? 'Cause according to you, you'd be siding with FUCKING NAZIS...

Ignoring nazis doesn't make them go away.

In America? Sure it does.

no I'm advocating violence against nazis.

You're advocating violence against what you think are nazis - because you dislike what they're saying.

What if you're getting Poe'd? If some cheeky asshole gives a Bellamy salute, that doesn't make him literally a Nazi. And you shouldn't be punching them.

Too, Leftists are literally calling for communism - and communists were just as murderous as the Nazis, if not more.

Do you also justify punching people wearing Che shirts?

What about this person:

You gonna punch them too?


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1095 of 1368 (817195)
08-15-2017 5:40 PM
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08-15-2017 5:30 PM


Re: very fine people on both sides!?
The KKK is a dying piece of shit and all y'all are doing is keeping it alive.
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