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Message 1 of 195 (816905)
08-13-2017 10:48 AM


...to call Robert Ray a Nazi?
"The heat here is nothing compared to what you're going to get in the ovens," shouted Robert Ray, a writer for the white supremacist website Daily Stormer. "It's coming," he spat.
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From the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally where some of the marchers were carrying swastika banners.
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Message 41 of 195 (817116)
08-15-2017 1:25 PM


And Alex Jones blames...Jews
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That sounds just a bit anti-Semitic to me.

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Message 45 of 195 (817166)
08-15-2017 4:31 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
So, let me understand. Alex Jones is defending the Ku Klux Klan by alleging a Jewish conspiracy and you're fine with that because he says it's "left wing" Jews? Seriously?

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Message 47 of 195 (817168)
08-15-2017 4:49 PM
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08-15-2017 4:40 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Then why is he alleging that they are Jews ?

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Message 49 of 195 (817170)
08-15-2017 4:58 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
And that hints at anti-Semitism before we even get to the whole conspiracy business.

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Message 51 of 195 (817172)
08-15-2017 5:05 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Alleging a Jewish conspiracy on the basis that he thinks they look Jewish - and have you seen any of the people in question ? - seems like a pretty strong hint to me.

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Message 54 of 195 (817177)
08-15-2017 5:15 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
It seems pretty clear to me that he is specifically targeting Jews. And his reasons for doing so seem pretty weak.

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Message 59 of 195 (817186)
08-15-2017 5:34 PM
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08-15-2017 5:24 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
He seems to be saying that they are ALL Jewish.

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Message 64 of 195 (817197)
08-15-2017 5:41 PM
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08-15-2017 5:35 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
From the quotes he is specifically alleging that there are leftist Jews dressing up as KKK members and stirring up violence. He doesn't say that only some of these (likely fictitious) leftists are Jews. The Jewishness isn't just a one-off, it's repeated.
I don't see how there can be any doubt that he's targeting Jews.

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Message 67 of 195 (817200)
08-15-2017 5:46 PM
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08-15-2017 5:37 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
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There are known Jewish leftist conspiracies, they ARE Jewish and they ARE leftist
You do remember that Alex Jones says nutty things that you don't believe ?
You do know that conspiracy theories are pretty much all bunk ?
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Not having seen them I don't know what I would think but I don't see any reason to assume he made it up.
I suppose you don't think there's any reason to think he made up these "chimeras" he claims to have seen either ?
At the least he is pandering to the anti-semites here.

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Message 80 of 195 (817225)
08-15-2017 11:53 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
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I'm not seeing it:
Really ?
they are leftists Jews that want to create this clash and they go dress up as Nazis.
Any mention of non-Jewish leftists in there at all ?

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Message 81 of 195 (817227)
08-15-2017 11:56 PM
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08-15-2017 5:48 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
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I can tell the difference between a nutty statement and a sensible statement even by the same person.
The idea that there is a Jewish conspiracy to make the Ku Klux Klan and Nazis look racist sounds pretty nutty to me. Why would you think otherwise ?

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Message 83 of 195 (817230)
08-16-2017 12:33 AM
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08-16-2017 12:23 AM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
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I suppose the conspiracy would be to make the whole demonstration flagrantly racist by the presence of the KKK. Apparently thinking the white supremacists themselves weren't enough for that purpose.
Because obviously the KKK wouldn't be defending memorials to the Confederacy ? Seriously ? Of course the KKK would be there.
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What bothers me is that the only people protesting the tearing down of historical monuments are white racists.
Rather obviously white racists are going to be the most in favour of keeping monuments to white racism.
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There was more to the Confederacy than racism for one thing...
The Confederacy formed specifically to defend slavery, as practiced in the American South. There is no way around that.

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Message 86 of 195 (817235)
08-16-2017 12:51 AM
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08-16-2017 12:45 AM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
So you go from not seeing it to saying that it would spoil the joke. Hmmm.
Well, I've told plenty of jokes. Defending racists by inventing Jewish conspiracies for an audience containing anti-semites doesn't strike me as a joke.

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Message 89 of 195 (817241)
08-16-2017 1:15 AM
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08-16-2017 12:54 AM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I think it is rather obvious that the KKK would be there, as they were in July, for much the same reason.
David Duke was apparently there.

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