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Huntard
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Message 46 of 195 (817167)
08-15-2017 4:40 PM
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08-15-2017 3:59 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Taq writes:
I don't see how that addresses what was said. One of the more popular voices on the political right is accusing jews of faking the riots.
I don't entirely agree with this statement. He specifically names the "leftist jews", and also adds "nothing against jews in general". So I think he's more upset with them being "leftist" than them being jews.

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Message 47 of 195 (817168)
08-15-2017 4:49 PM
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08-15-2017 4:40 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Then why is he alleging that they are Jews ?

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Huntard
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Message 48 of 195 (817169)
08-15-2017 4:52 PM
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08-15-2017 4:49 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
PaulK writes:
Then why is he alleging that they are Jews ?
Since he describes their looks I'm thinking because that's what he thinks all jews look like?

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Message 49 of 195 (817170)
08-15-2017 4:58 PM
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08-15-2017 4:52 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
And that hints at anti-Semitism before we even get to the whole conspiracy business.

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Huntard
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Message 50 of 195 (817171)
08-15-2017 4:59 PM
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08-15-2017 4:58 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Generalizing looks is anti semitic?

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Message 51 of 195 (817172)
08-15-2017 5:05 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Alleging a Jewish conspiracy on the basis that he thinks they look Jewish - and have you seen any of the people in question ? - seems like a pretty strong hint to me.

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Huntard
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Message 52 of 195 (817175)
08-15-2017 5:12 PM
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08-15-2017 5:05 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I have only seen the quote from Jones, and from that quote I think he is blaming "leftists" who he thinks happen to be Jews, rather than Jews who he thinks happen to be "leftists". I don't know if he has said stuff in the past that was blatantly anti-semitic, but I can't recall anythnig. This quote alone I don't think suffices to call him an all out anti-semite.
That was all I was trying to say. Jones is nutty enough as is.

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Message 53 of 195 (817176)
08-15-2017 5:12 PM
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08-15-2017 4:49 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Then why is he alleging that they are Jews ?
It is particularly ironic if people are faking being KKK when they're actually Jewish.
It's contrast for a joke: "a lot of the KKK guys with their hats off look like they’re from the cast of Seinfeld".
I mean, it's a lame joke, but calling this antisemitism is grasping at straws.

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Message 54 of 195 (817177)
08-15-2017 5:15 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
It seems pretty clear to me that he is specifically targeting Jews. And his reasons for doing so seem pretty weak.

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Message 55 of 195 (817178)
08-15-2017 5:19 PM
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08-15-2017 5:12 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I mean, it's a lame joke, but calling this antisemitism is grasping at straws.
It's not a joke, he's literally saying the riots are fake and being put on by Jewish people.

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Message 56 of 195 (817180)
08-15-2017 5:24 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I see him saying that Leftists are fake-dressing up like the KKK and some of them are even Jewish.

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Huntard
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Message 57 of 195 (817181)
08-15-2017 5:24 PM
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Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
And it seems pretty clear to me that he isn't, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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Message 58 of 195 (817183)
08-15-2017 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Huntard
08-15-2017 4:40 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Huntard writes:
I don't entirely agree with this statement. He specifically names the "leftist jews", and also adds "nothing against jews in general". So I think he's more upset with them being "leftist" than them being jews.
That's like someone saying that they have no problem with black people, just those "uppity niggers".

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Message 59 of 195 (817186)
08-15-2017 5:34 PM
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08-15-2017 5:24 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
He seems to be saying that they are ALL Jewish.

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Huntard
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Message 60 of 195 (817188)
08-15-2017 5:35 PM
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08-15-2017 5:26 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Taq writes:
That's like someone saying that they have no problem with black people, just those "uppity niggers".
I can't believe I'm defending Jones on this, but I just did some digging and I found this quote from him:
quote:
To sit there and then say that all the ills in the world are then caused by Jews is wrong. Jews are a very diverse wide group of people who have a lot of different political ideas, I am Jewish. Now I’m not, but with talk like thatyou want to kill the Jews you’re going to have to kill me
It's from this clip:
Granted, it's from 2011, so maybe he changed his views, but I think you guys are reading way too much into this.
Jones thinks there's a leftist conspiracy, some of these leftists are jews. That is all he is saying. Granted he is saying it in a way that could be interpreted the way you are doing. So as to cash in on all those anti-semites that need some "potency water" or what have you from Jones's store. But I don't think he himself is an anti-semite.
Edited by Huntard, : Fixed video link

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