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Taq
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Message 61 of 195 (817190)
08-15-2017 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Huntard
08-15-2017 5:35 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Huntard writes:
Granted, it's from 2011, so maybe he changed his views, but I think you guys are reading way too much into this.
Why did he say "leftist Jews" instead of just "leftists"? What was the purpose of singling out Jews from all the other leftists?

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Message 62 of 195 (817191)
08-15-2017 5:37 PM
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08-15-2017 5:15 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Alex Jones is not anti-Semitic. There are known Jewish leftist conspiracies, they ARE Jewish and they ARE leftist. He says he saw the KKK without their hoods and they "looked" Jewish. Well some Jews do look Jewish, that's not anti-Semitism, it's fact. Some Jews DON'T look Jewish. He said these looked Jewish. Not having seen them I don't know what I would think but I don't see any reason to assume he made it up. He's condemned anti-semjitism, he's condemned the KKK. People have trouble with Jones because he's consistent and he will call a Jewish conspiracy a Jewish conspiracy while being very supportive of Jewish conservatives. When I saw the protestor saying he wants to kill Jews I knew the guy would be happy to kill all the conservative Jews too and all my politically confused Jewish relatives too, and THAT scares me. But identifying a Jewish leftist conspiracy, though it's going to get you falsely branded by the Left as a racist anti-Semite hater pig, is just being precise.
He's also condemned the KKK. So identifying a KKK appearance as a fake put on by a Jewish leftist conspiracy has nothing to do with supporting the KKK. He's objecting to any implication that all white people are racists, symbolized by the KKK and he sees that as the message the Leftist Jewish conspiracy is trying to get across.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Infowars+KKK...

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Huntard
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Message 63 of 195 (817194)
08-15-2017 5:40 PM
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08-15-2017 5:37 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Well, one: he wants that anti-semite money. And two: he believes the people he saw were Jews.

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Message 64 of 195 (817197)
08-15-2017 5:41 PM
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08-15-2017 5:35 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
From the quotes he is specifically alleging that there are leftist Jews dressing up as KKK members and stirring up violence. He doesn't say that only some of these (likely fictitious) leftists are Jews. The Jewishness isn't just a one-off, it's repeated.
I don't see how there can be any doubt that he's targeting Jews.

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Huntard
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Message 65 of 195 (817198)
08-15-2017 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by PaulK
08-15-2017 5:41 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Yes, but I think that is because he believes they were Jews. And because he wants that sweet sweet anti-semite money.

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Message 66 of 195 (817199)
08-15-2017 5:45 PM
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08-15-2017 5:34 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
He seems to be saying that they are ALL Jewish.
I'm not seeing it:
quote:
And it later came out they (people dressed up like KKK) were federal agents like I said. It wasn’t even real. I mean, quite frankly, I've been to these events, a lot of the KKK guys with their hats off look like they’re from the cast of Seinfeld. Literally they’re just Jewish actors. Nothing against Jews in general, but they are leftists Jews that want to create this clash and they go dress up as Nazis.

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Message 67 of 195 (817200)
08-15-2017 5:46 PM
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08-15-2017 5:37 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
quote:
There are known Jewish leftist conspiracies, they ARE Jewish and they ARE leftist
You do remember that Alex Jones says nutty things that you don't believe ?
You do know that conspiracy theories are pretty much all bunk ?
quote:
Not having seen them I don't know what I would think but I don't see any reason to assume he made it up.
I suppose you don't think there's any reason to think he made up these "chimeras" he claims to have seen either ?
At the least he is pandering to the anti-semites here.

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Message 68 of 195 (817201)
08-15-2017 5:46 PM
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08-15-2017 5:41 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I agree he's "targeting" meaning identifying Jews - a particular group of Jews, Leftist activist Jews who do have an agenda that comes out of their early Communist identity, then their identity in the 60s Frankfurt School/Cultural Marxism which has wreaked so much havoc since the 60s and fueled a lot of the hatred on the Left against America and against white people. You may ask why it's a particularly Jewish conspiracy, but the only answer is that it simply is. They somehow see it as their mission to bring down the West. That was Marx's mission, and in his own different way, Freud's as well.
David Horowitz used to be one of them. Fortunately we now have a lot of conservative Jews fighting against them.

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Taq
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Message 69 of 195 (817202)
08-15-2017 5:48 PM
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08-15-2017 5:40 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Huntard writes:
Well, one: he wants that anti-semite money. And two: he believes the people he saw were Jews.
Just as Hitler believed that there was a Jewish banking conspiracy that was taking money from the Aryans in Germany.

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Faith 
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Message 70 of 195 (817203)
08-15-2017 5:48 PM
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08-15-2017 5:46 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I can tell the difference between a nutty statement and a sensible statement even by the same person. I don't tar a person for his errors if he also says a lot of intelligent thngs. I don't recall anything he said about chimeras. I only listen to him once in a while and probably miss a lot of his stuff.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Taq
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Message 71 of 195 (817204)
08-15-2017 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Faith
08-15-2017 5:37 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Faith writes:
There are known Jewish leftist conspiracies, they ARE Jewish and they ARE leftist.
Again, this is the same argument that Hitler used.
Well some Jews do look Jewish, that's not anti-Semitism, it's fact. Some Jews DON'T look Jewish. He said these looked Jewish. Not having seen them I don't know what I would think but I don't see any reason to assume he made it up.
Hitler also put people in death camps because they "looked jewish".
What we are seeing is a political movement that lacks morality and lacks accountability to the point that they will dig deep in the well of racial hatred to bring out Jewish conspiracies as a reason to deflect blame.

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Message 72 of 195 (817205)
08-15-2017 5:51 PM


Alex Jones
Alex Jones definitely looks asshole-ish to me and I've seen him without his mask. As soon as I heard him I knew he was an Asshole.

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Message 73 of 195 (817206)
08-15-2017 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Taq
08-15-2017 5:48 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Taq writes:
Hitler
Now now, don't Godwin this shit.
Hitler believed all Jews needed to die, not only because of their imagined conspiracies, but also to purify his imagined Aryan race and a whole lot of other reasons. Jones has literally said that he doesn't think all Jews should be killed, he just hates all "leftists", some of which happen to be Jews. And these should be dealt with (I don't think he has said anywhere he thinks "leftists" should be killed).
{ABE}: To put it more bluntly, Hitler said this:
quote:
Wenn es dem internationalen Finanzjudentum in und auerhalb Europas gelingen sollte, die Vlker noch einmal in einen Weltkrieg zu strzen, dann wird das Ergebnis nicht die Bolschewisierung der Erde und damit der Sieg des Judentums sein, sondern die Vernichtung der jdischen Rasse in Europa
Translation: When the international Financial Jews within and without Europe would succeed in plunging the peoples into another world war, then the outcome shall not be the Bolsjewickization of the earth and with it the victory of the Jews, but the annihilation of the Jewish race from Europe
Jones said:
quote:
To sit there and then say that all the ills in the world are then caused by Jews is wrong. Jews are a very diverse wide group of people who have a lot of different political ideas, I am Jewish. Now I’m not, but with talk like thatyou want to kill the Jews you’re going to have to kill me
So yeah, I know which one I would call an anti-semite.
Edited by Huntard, : Added quotes.

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Message 74 of 195 (817208)
08-15-2017 5:58 PM
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08-15-2017 5:50 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I'm sure the white supremacist I heard would kill all the Jews, and they need to be called out on it. That doesn't change the fact that there is in reality a Leftist Jewish conspiracy against western civilization as well as Jews who are avid American patriots who oppose them. I think it's important to make distinctions like this or the white supremacists are going to continue to target all Jews and not just the leftist conspiracy group.

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Message 75 of 195 (817209)
08-15-2017 6:03 PM
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08-15-2017 5:58 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I think it's important to make distinctions like this or the white supremacists are going to continue to target all Jews and not just the leftist conspiracy group.
They're going to continue to target all jews because they are white supremacists. You're not going to be able to convince these sister fucking hillbillies that there are good jews.

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