Is it "Politically Correct"...

I don't know if it matters, but he had a Jewish wife during most of the 21st century (I think).He rarely said much about Israel.I used to have a note of a mainstream media article (from 2001 to 2003 or round about) he showed which had Israel (being caught) shipping nuclear materials to Iran. He sees all governments as involved in one giant plot. He sees the Islamic government of Iran as some CIA operation (which its leaders were involved in) and he sees Israel and Iran as governments that are closer than the media will let one in on.At least he doesn't question the suffering of Jews during World War 2, and he genuinely hates fascism (despite his anti-immigration views which require government round ups).I don't know if he has changed, but he used to be a genuine libertarian on most issues. Perhaps he is going a bit fascist. I don't know.

But if we don't make such distinctions we guarantee they'll never learn anything. Since they consider themselves patriots defending "white" culture they need to be reminded that there are patriots in every racial group that support western (not "white") culture and civilization. This isn't about race and that has to be said as much as possible.

Well, I couldn't find any examples where organizations were punished for advocacy of illegal activities. Either such a thing just isn't done in this country (the US), or my Google skills are seriously awful.The closest I could find is the Communist Control Act of 1954. But it isn't clear to me whether it was passed to punish the Communist Party for advocating something or for actually doing things. Also, the intent of the law was really more to prove how patriotic the members of Congress were, so it was never enforced and so never tested in the courts.I am reminded of the defunding of ACORN and current efforts to defund Planned Parenthood, but those are for those organizations' activities or alleged activities, not for their advocacy.Finally, there's the famous (at least for First Amendment nuts like myself) case of Brandenburg v Ohio, which declared unconstitutional a Ohio law that made the mere advocacy of terrorism to accomplish political reform.That case involved an individual, not an organization, but the decision was pretty clear: unless the speech actually incites imminent lawless action, it is protected speech: I suspect that any attempt to punish an organization for advocacy of violence in a manner that was not seen to incite imminent lawless action would face the same fate. But then, you never know what will happen until an actual case comes before the nine people who are currently on the Supreme Court.

HUH?Sorry but dealt with for what?

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I'm not seeing it:

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Really ? Any mention of non-Jewish leftists in there at all ?

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I can tell the difference between a nutty statement and a sensible statement even by the same person.

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The idea that there is a Jewish conspiracy to make the Ku Klux Klan and Nazis look racist sounds pretty nutty to me. Why would you think otherwise ?

I suppose the conspiracy would be to make the whole demonstration flagrantly racist by the presence of the KKK. Apparently thinking the white supremacists themselves weren't enough for that purpose. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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I suppose the conspiracy would be to make the whole demonstration flagrantly racist by the presence of the KKK. Apparently thinking the white supremacists themselves weren't enough for that purpose.

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Because obviously the KKK wouldn't be defending memorials to the Confederacy ? Seriously ? Of course the KKK would be there.

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What bothers me is that the only people protesting the tearing down of historical monuments are white racists.

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Rather obviously white racists are going to be the most in favour of keeping monuments to white racism.

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There was more to the Confederacy than racism for one thing...

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The Confederacy formed specifically to defend slavery, as practiced in the American South. There is no way around that.

What, and spoil the irony? Have you never told a joke?

Actually, that's why I took down that paragraph, the South was a monument to slavery and racism. I have to agree. If Russia took down statues of Lenin and Iraq took down statues of Saddam Hussein (although he was arguably less of a problem than what followed) I guess we have to take down statues of the defenders of slavery. Maybe someone could change my mind again, have to see.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

So you go from not seeing it to saying that it would spoil the joke. Hmmm.Well, I've told plenty of jokes. Defending racists by inventing Jewish conspiracies for an audience containing anti-semites doesn't strike me as a joke.

Either the KKK was there or Jones saw it being impersonated. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Honestly? Are you really not following what I'm saying? They're not mutually exclusive. That's so spun But even if it were true, it would simply be pandering by a guy getting paid to do it. Don't fall for this shit.

I think it is rather obvious that the KKK would be there, as they were in July, for much the same reason.David Duke was apparently there.

I just listened to that video of Jones again and now it's not clear to me what it's about. He's talking about something that happened eighteen years ago, not in this recent demonstration. He is talking about more than one occasion where he saw Jewish Leftists impersonating the KKK. He's also protesting the KKK in the video he's showing.Now I don't know what all this is about.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.