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The utter nutjob and known anti-Constitution and anti-Rule of Law Roy Moore received the most votes in Alabama's Senatorial Primary election.41% of the voters support someone who has been removed from office for violating court orders and refusing to submit to court decisions while placing his perverted version of Christianity above the US Laws.

DOJ Demands Files On Anti-Trump Activists, And A Web Hosting Company Resists

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In gathering evidence for the nearly 200 still-open cases in D.C. court, the Justice Department issued a warrant that DreamHost says is so broad it would require handing over the logs of 1.3 million visits to the website.

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The company called the warrant "a highly untargeted demand that chills free association and the right of free speech afforded by the Constitution. ... This is, in our opinion, a strong example of investigatory overreach and a clear abuse of government authority."

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The California-based company is resisting a Department of Justice warrant that demands it hand over all files related to DisruptJ20.org, a website created by one of its customers to plan and announce actions intended to interrupt President Trump's inauguration.

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Inauguration Day protests in Washington, D.C. turned violent; 230 people were arrested and charged with felony rioting.

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A week after the inauguration, DreamHost says the Justice Department asked it for records relating to the person who had registered the site such as the person's physical and email addresses and it complied.

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But in July, the government issued a new warrant that asked for additional materials: "all files, databases, and database records" related to DisruptJ20's website, as prosecutors moved to seize all information "involving the individuals who participated, planed [sic], organized, or incited the January 20 riot."

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"It always raises red flags when the government is trying to pry into the organization or the association of its political opponents," Rumold says. "That said, the DOJ has apparently demonstrated to a judge that there is probable cause to believe that something on this site is evidence of a crime." But, he says, the logs of everyone who ever visited the site, along with when and where they viewed it "there's no way that that's all evidence of a crime."

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This seems chilling to me. The Trump DOJ seems to be building a database of all the people who oppose Trump.Edited by Tanypteryx, : added title

I think probably most people share my own reaction to this of, "The maple syrup comment makes no sense, and DrJones* wasn't implying anything like that anyway." According to Wikipedia, the Unite the Right rally protesters were a mix of "white supremacists, white nationalists, neo-Confederates, neo-Nazis and militias." While marching or protesting they were chanting phrases like "Jews will not replace us" and "Blood and soil," waving Confederate and Nazi flags, and holding placards saying things like "the Goyim know" and "the Jewish media is going down." It wasn't like it would have been easy to unknowingly get mixed in with these protesters.We should all condemn violence, but the violence in Charlottesville shouldn't serve to distract us from the primary message. The Unite the Right protesters are wrong independent of any violence their members may or may not have committed. They're wrong because their message of hate is wrong, and it is important that we make clear how strongly we object to this message.In this our leader failed us. Miserably and spectacularly. No.--Percy

Yes the people who showed up chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us" whilst carrying flags with swastikas on them were just having a laugh. To paraphrase something Chris Rock tweeted the other day "if you have 10 guys who think it's ok to hang out with 1 nazi, you have 11 nazis."

In case there's any doubt that President Trump's Tuesday comments were an endorsement of white racism, supremacy and nationalism, David Duke endorsed his comments on Twitter:

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Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa https://t.co/tTESdV4LP0

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David Duke (@DrDavidDuke) August 15, 2017

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From As he coddles neo-Nazis, Trump’s political isolation increases:

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[Trump's] poll numbers hit a new low this week 34%, according to Gallup. Given that a quarter of Americans consistently prove their looniness by subscribing to preposterous conspiracy theories like birtherism and Pizzagate, that poll number indicates Trump is getting ever closer to being the president only of fools and fascists.

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Trump is still a far better option than the alternatives. Let's keep him for the rest of his term as there is currently no way to replace him with a better alternative.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

And yet they just posted that if there are 10 people and one Nazi then you have 11 Nazis. And then, apparently, you can get started with the punching. Great, just stop calling for and bringing violence.Too, painting with a broad brush and poisoning the well makes y'all look just as hateful as those you oppose... and hypocritical.

Antifa Member Photographed Beating Police Officer?

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A photograph purportedly showing an Antifa member hitting a police officer has been digitally manipulated.

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This is not a genuine photograph of an antifa protestor striking a police officer. This image was digitally manipulated to add the antifa logo to an unrelated photograph.

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The real image was taken in Athens, Greece in December 2009 during a demonstration on the one-year anniversary of the death of Alexandros Grigoropoulos, a 15-year-old who was killed by a police officer. Photographer Milos Bicanski took the photograph, which is available on Getty Images with the following caption:

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Greek youths clash with riot police during a demonstration commemorating the fatal shooting of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos’ by police a year ago, on December 6, 2009 in central Athens, Greece. Two police officers will go on trial in the new year for the murder of Grigoropoulos.

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I had never heard of "antifa" before last weekend.Clearly this was done by the terrible left to discredit themselves. /sarcasm

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[Trump's] poll numbers hit a new low this week 34%, according to Gallup.

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That's still a horribly high number.

In Message 1103, I wrote:

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I think probably most people share my own reaction to this of, "The maple syrup comment makes no sense, and DrJones* wasn't implying anything like that anyway."

And yet they just posted that if there are 10 people and one Nazi then you have 11 Nazis. And then, apparently, you can get started with the punching.

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I'm going to clarify further::Up-front disclosure: I don't support the alt-right. This is just a point of principle.That point is: A terrible group, in this case neo-nazis, joining your side in something does not make you a member of that group and does not make your side automatically wrong.On top of that, you shouldn't advocate violence against a person just because you think they are a member of a group, even if it is neo-nazis - you could be wrong and violence isn't the answer.So, to further clarify I'm going to use Arnold Schwarzenegger's message to Trump about this. Have you seen it? I agree. But if some asshole decides to bring that flag to a march I want to participate in for different reasons, then there actually is more than one side.They'd be choosing to march with me, I didn't choose to march with them. If I'm marching for something, then I don't want to be at home. Just because some asshole with a flag shows up doesn't mean I should stop. Consider some neo-nazis showing up to a BLM protest against the police because they agreed - would you expect the BLM protesters to go home?If I was marching, I would yell at a nazi-flag-bearer, and tell them to fuck off and get the fuck out. But I wouldn't go home if it was something that I thought was worth marching for (more disclosure: practically, that is nothing that I think is actually plausible). I wouldn't punch anybody that didn't AssaultMe^{which is loaded and complex - and beside the point}, though, and I don't think anyone should advocate otherwise.I'm on board for "leaving the terrible ghosts of the past in the trash heap of history", but I think that we shouldn't bury our trash and forget about it - and tearing old monuments down is stupid. But that is not something I'm worth marching for. And cities can do what they want with their shit. But the calls for violence need to stop.Hrm, what do you think about this:If thinking that a person is a nazi means that you are justified in punching them, then wouldn't that make calling someone a nazi a punch-able offense? Especially if you're wrong about them? If people thinking that I'm a nazi means that I'm gonna start getting punched, then if you started calling me a nazi I would feel justified in starting to punch you in defense. Isn't that fair?Yeah, how about we just don't start any punching? And how about we all stop advocating violence against people that we think are members of a group?ABE: Edited by New Cat's Eye, : No reason given.

So therefore, logically: If you are marching for something, and people show up agreeing with you that are carrying nazi flags and chanting naughty words, then that makes you a nazi too and I am justified in punching you if you do not leave?

As I said, we should all condemn violence. The Unite the Right protesters are wrong because their message of hate is wrong, not because of any violence they may or may not have committed. People should be clear what they're defending when they defend the Unite the Right protesters: their right to be safe during a peaceful protest, or their message.When Trump said there were "Some very fine people on both sides," who on the Unite the Right side was he talking about? Who among the white nationalists, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, KKK, militias and any others bearing a message of hate were "very fine people?"--PercyEdited by Percy, : Grammar.Edited by Percy, : Typo.

Is this a hypothetical, or something you're claiming was substantively the case in the violence in Charlottesville? I'm not sure why this is part of a reply to a message that said, "We should condemn all violence..."We must make sure that the important message isn't lost by Trump's obfuscation: messages of hate must be unambiguously condemned and opposed.--Percy

Amen! You cant very well be a victim when you choose to go down a dark alley.