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Message 1096 of 4573 (817263)
08-16-2017 8:50 AM


Alabama Senate race shows just how brain-dead American voters can be.
The utter nutjob and known anti-Constitution and anti-Rule of Law Roy Moore received the most votes in Alabama's Senatorial Primary election.
41% of the voters support someone who has been removed from office for violating court orders and refusing to submit to court decisions while placing his perverted version of Christianity above the US Laws.

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jar
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Message 1102 of 4573 (817380)
08-17-2017 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1101 by Percy
08-17-2017 9:22 AM


Let's keep Trump
Trump is still a far better option than the alternatives. Let's keep him for the rest of his term as there is currently no way to replace him with a better alternative.
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Message 1138 of 4573 (818031)
08-22-2017 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1135 by Phat
08-22-2017 4:17 PM


Re: Lets Move On to Afghanistan
Utterly stupid.

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Message 1140 of 4573 (818037)
08-22-2017 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1139 by Phat
08-22-2017 5:34 PM


Re: Lets Move On to Afghanistan
The issue of Afghanistan is not really new news. While at least one Great Power did originate in Afghanistan that created an enormous and enduring empire not a single example of outside successful invasion has happened. Interestingly, even during the 12th century expansion that created the Great Indus Valley empire the rule and order part existed mostly outside Afghanistan. Internally the areas we identify today as Afghanistan remained a troubled area.
There is simply no example I am aware of of a successful internal nation state in Afghanistan and instead a long list of failed attempts by outside powers, Russian, French, English, American, Pakistani, Indian to invade, conquer, stabilize, contain, control or influence "Afghanistan".
What is different about the latest planned attempts?
AbE:
Even the Maurya Empire which probably came the closest to incorporating Afghanistan into the wider world only lasted a few hundred years, from around 300BCE to around 185 BCE.
Edited by jar, : see AbE

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jar
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Message 1142 of 4573 (818051)
08-23-2017 6:46 AM
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08-23-2017 12:51 AM


Re: Lets Move On to Afghanistan
Still the same story. Whether the spoils are Opium or Lithium or Copper, there has never been a successful military conquest of Afghanistan. And dropping bombs hardly seems the coast effective way to build the infrastructure needed to exploit those resources.

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jar
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Message 1146 of 4573 (818067)
08-23-2017 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1144 by Phat
08-23-2017 8:31 AM


Re: Afghanistan: What is real?
Phat writes:
Do you have any pointers or suggestions on how you would equip the public to sift through the mass glut and deluge of information, opinion, and written news that we see every day?
None that we have not talked about in the past.
The first step is that people have to learn how to consciously discriminate. That is not quick or easily done.
Remember logic, reason, reality. Logic is a nice tool but it is the lowest, least reliable of the three. Something may be eminently logical but simply fail when tested by reason (reason, NOT preference). Finally reality trumps both reason and logic.
You need to separate those hings that are testable and facts from those things that are not testable and simply opinion.
Regarding Afghanistan we can list those things that can be called Facts:
the resources exist
Factual Problems:
the infrastructure needed to exploit the resources does not exist
part of the needed infrastructure is a functioning local, state and national government
another infrastructure needed is an environment dominated by the rule of law
historically none of the items listed when created by war and invasion has had a long lifespan
any solution must be made by the Afghans themselves
the next step is to try to plan some method to address the problems that has any chance of success.
Can it be done?
Of course. Vietnam, Thailand and Cambodia are great examples. Once the US got out of trying to impose an External Military solution the Vietnamese, Cambodians and Thais developed solutions such that today all three are active trading partners with the US and both the US and each of those nations benefit from the changed process.

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Message 1180 of 4573 (818934)
09-04-2017 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1179 by Phat
09-04-2017 9:16 AM


Re: Fox News Poll: Trump tearing country apart
Wakee wakee
He has done that with each of the Science related Agencies and also cut their budgets.
How about appointing someone who made a career out of suing the EPA to head EPA?
How about telling NASA to stop looking back at the Earth and only look to the stars?
How about cutting the FEMA budget?
Look at the current US Gov EPA website.
Note "We are currently updating our website to reflect EPA's priorities under the leadership of President Trump and Administrator Pruitt."
The website is being updated to reflect political dogma instead of reality.

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jar
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Message 1182 of 4573 (818938)
09-04-2017 9:43 AM
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09-04-2017 9:38 AM


Re: Fox News Poll: Trump tearing country apart
Phat writes:
Let's focus on just this issue. What will the current administration emphasize in regards to a proven scientific topic?
They have said. There is no Climate Change.

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jar
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Message 1184 of 4573 (818941)
09-04-2017 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1183 by Phat
09-04-2017 9:46 AM


Where we can see the future
What happened in Houston was certainly a tragedy and we need to try to help those who are suffering BUT much of the tragedy was man made, predictable, recurring and self inflicted.
Houston grew as quickly as it has, as large as it has and during that time zoning has been repeatedly voted down as have building requirements. Farm and scrub land was paved over replacing dirt to absorb water with asphalt and concrete to retain water.
The people of Houston chose to allow virtually unregulated expansion and construction.
I listen to those poor folk shocked that their house got flooded when it became necessary to lower the water in the dams; but that is simply wilful ignorance on their part. I feel for those who do not have flood insurance but come on, Houston floods every time it rains.
The issue is whether or not Houston and other areas learn a lesson. Will they take the unpopular position of changing where folk can build, how folk can build, how roads should be built, including emergency and disaster preparedness into the initial planning and construction requirements?

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jar
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Message 1187 of 4573 (819056)
09-05-2017 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1186 by Percy
09-05-2017 2:45 PM


Re: The Cruelest President
Percy writes:
Has there ever been a more cruel President than Trump?
Sure, Andrew Jackson is the one that likely heads the list; nobody did genocide better than Andy. But McKinley's treatment of the Philippines should also be noted. Then there was Ronald Reagan; maybe not as cruel as the first two but certainly right up there. Andrew Johnson, James Polk and James Buchanan also should deserve mention; Polk for his war with Mexico and Buchanan and Johnson for their policies before and after the Civil War.

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jar
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Message 1205 of 4573 (820590)
09-23-2017 4:13 PM


Donald Trump is simply unfit to be in polite company.
The man is a nothing but a boor.

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jar
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Message 1213 of 4573 (820782)
09-27-2017 11:56 AM


Concord
quote:
concord
ˈkNGˌkrd/
noun
noun: concord
1.
formal
agreement or harmony between people or groups.
"a pact of peace and concord"
synonyms: agreement, harmony, accord, consensus, concurrence, unity
When the world leaders sit down together peace is assured.
Edited by jar, : fix identity link

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jar
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Message 1219 of 4573 (821018)
09-30-2017 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1208 by Phat
09-27-2017 7:48 AM


Re: The Proposed Tax Cuts Make No Fiscal Sense
The important issue that determines if the plan makes fiscal sense is a matter of whose taxes get cut. If it is YOUR taxes that get cut then it makes sense. If it THEIR taxes that gets cut it makes no sense.

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Message 1230 of 4573 (821114)
10-02-2017 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1229 by Taq
10-02-2017 3:14 PM


Re: People who voted for Jill Stein were tricked, and we are all paying for it
There is little to differentiate the Feel the Bern crowd from il Donald. As with il Donald, it is always "their" fault.

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Message 1491 of 4573 (823247)
11-08-2017 6:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1490 by NoNukes
11-08-2017 12:26 AM


NN writes:
His influence did not have the desired effect in either Virginia or in the Senate race in Alabama.
But the Alabama results show that an even more extreme right wing nutcase than what Trump supported was acceptable.

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