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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Taq writes: Every other country in the world seems to be doing just fine. Perhaps the ones doing well are civilized?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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So why not open the borders, encourage immigration and maintain a large enough workforce to cover any loss of people paying into the system.
Of course, that will also require that there is a job in the US that pays enough for the taxes to fund the system.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Diomedes writes: Right-wingers don't seem to have too many problems with white immigrants from Europe. As long as they are not white spicks or kikes or wops or ... SOCIALISTs & COMMUNISTs & LIBERALs! It's time that we started taking the Gross Domestic Product to mean something all in the US should share.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Do you know what the GDP is?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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And with the real employment situation.
What is really need is something not seen in the US since the late 50s and early 60s and that is Long Term Planning. Without planning that goes beyond the 5 O'clock News or the next election cycle I see absolutely no reason to think anything will get done at all.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Those are the words. What do they mean?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: the total value of goods produced and services provided in a country during one year. What does the word value mean?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Stop looking stuff up. Think instead. What is "the total value of goods produced and services provided in a country during one year. "? Who produced the value?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Human labor is part of it.
What are some of the other parts?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
and?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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So the GDP is created by the workers, the bankers, the investors the overseas buyers...
What about the parents and grandparents that stay home and watch kids? What about the teachers? How about the kids still in school learning how to be productive adults? What about the folk that served in our military but are now out and suffering from physical or mental wounds? How about the illegal migrants that come to plant and harvest the food that is produced? Do those people also contribute to the creation of the Gross Domestic Product?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
While that is correct it is also irrelevant to this discussion.
So the GDP is created by the workers, the bankers, the investors the overseas buyers... What about the parents and grandparents that stay home and watch kids? What about the teachers? How about the kids still in school learning how to be productive adults? What about the folk that served in our military but are now out and suffering from physical or mental wounds? How about the illegal migrants that come to plant and harvest the food that is produced?
Do those people also contribute to the creation of the Gross Domestic Product?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So if they all contribute to creating the GDP, would it be reasonable to assume they deserve some share of the GDP?
For example, would it be reasonable to assume they have an equal right to use the domestic infrastructure, the roads, bridges, sidewalks, public transportation, broadcast radio & TV?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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So since you agree that they contributed to creating the Gross Domestic Product and that they deserve the right to share in what was produced by the Gross Domestic Product would it not also be reasonable to say that as a Nation we have a duty to see that they also share in some basic rights such as access to shelter, access to Health Care, access to education, access to support after they can no longer contribute to creating the GDP due to age, accident or sickness?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What is the average price of a car today?
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