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Author Topic:   True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing
Tanypteryx
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Message 8 of 154 (818388)
08-27-2017 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Porkncheese
08-27-2017 9:08 PM


Evidence is not conclusive nor is it absolute.
No one is claiming that, but the evidence does lead to more accurate conclusions than wild ass guesses. And over time collecting more and more evidence leads to more and more accurate conclusions.
I agree but then why do people take issue with questions being raised.
Well, if you mean here at EvC, it is a debate forum, so people come here specifically to argue. Regular members here don't take issues with legitimate questions, but they do get short with people who ask silly questions that we refer to as PRATTs, that is "Points Refutted A Thousand Times".
Your thread title "True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing". is a silly generalization. Some people know lots of things and they also realize they will never know everything. Knowledge is cumulative and that is the crowning achievement of humanity, discovering ways to compile and store knowledge in ways that make it available to all. Bless the librarians.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 17 of 154 (818430)
08-28-2017 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Porkncheese
08-28-2017 12:29 AM


Re: Inconclusive not absolute
1. No one knows eveything which some people seem to deny
Well, "some people" is pretty general. Are you saying some people here at EvC claim to know everything?
2. The evidence used is inconclusive and not absolute which most people have a really hard time accepting.
That's a bit vague, isn't it? What evidence are you claiming is inconclusive? Be specific.
which most people have a really hard time accepting.
Who are you talking about?
As for silly questions, are you saying I've asked silly questions.
No, I was pointing out that there is a whole class of questions that have been answered many times before. They are so common that we have a name for them: PRATTs
And if my questions are so outrageous than why has no one been able answer them.
No one said anything about your questions being outrageous. People can answer your questions, but you have to be willing to learn something and not ride in all convinced that no one can. When someone shows up making inaccurate claims about what science or biology or evolutionary theory says and then demands an immediate accounting the likely result will be us pointing out that your version of evolution is inaccurate.
Like why don't we see thousands of intermadiate fossils of humans?
We do see thousands of intermediate fossils in the human lineage.
What kind of predictions have been made to support the theory?
What are the best forms of evidence supporting the theory?
One of my favorite predictions is that life fits into nested hierarchies when we classify them. This holds true for morphological classification as well as genetic. These nested hierarchies show how life is interrelated.
Have I been rude at all? Haven't I stuck to the subject?
But my points are never addressed. And no one can produce anything for me to consider.
You did seem to arrive with a chip on your shoulder. You claim not to be a creationist, but your questions and claims about science (physics & math & biology) show a lack of knowledge and understanding how science works.
They are questions not made up by myself. I am mearly parroting the ideas and points made by many others.
Yep, we know, Creationists.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 35 of 154 (818490)
08-29-2017 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Porkncheese
08-29-2017 5:53 AM


The way it is presented to the inability to explain things I saw it all before in religion. Both have exactly the same traits in so many aspects I couldn't even list them all if I tried.
So both have the same traits, but you are incapable of listing them and you wouldn't even try anyway.
Interestingly is that both views involve inbreeding at the very beginning (even though ToE doesn't cover that it is still "science").
What does this even mean? Do you even know the definition of "inbreeding"? And what does it have to do with the theory of evolution?
But even though I hate religion I was never insulted for asking questions or abused for looking at things from another perspective.
And you weren't here either.
Anyway Im off on a snow trip now and will most likely not re visit this site so best of luck to all (even the haters) Be objective, trust the word of no one and question everything. Goodbye
Good, we win! You were a push over.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 73 of 154 (818745)
09-01-2017 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Porkncheese
09-01-2017 6:11 PM


Re: ToE admits defeat
Porky writes:
Given these statements can man accurately be traced back from 80 million years back to 6.5 billion years to ocean creatures? The way the animations depict it? With every step of evolution for every species?
Porky writes:
True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing
Well, you have succeeded in enlightening us that you know nothing.
Porky writes:
Ridicule... Number 1 defence for the defenceless.
Ridiculing myself with unfounded claims that are irrelevant to the debate. Ridiculing every link I have posted to avoid addressing the points made. Its a weak defence.
It's ridiculous.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 81 of 154 (818753)
09-02-2017 1:25 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Porkncheese
09-01-2017 8:42 PM


Re: The truth is hard for some to swallow
Porky writes:
The simple fact that we don't know everything has really ruffled feathers.
How funny. You seem to be the only one who is ruffled.
Porky writes:
Even against dozens of fanatics,
Oh, hundreds at least, all armed with facts too.
Porky writes:
one man with only a basic knowledge of ToE is able to expose the fiction which is littered throughout this fairytale
Well, the one man part is true, but kid you don't have even the most rudimentary knowledge of the Theory of Evolution. You are deluded with your grandeur.
Porky writes:
and expose what is most definately a pseudoscience.
Well, that would be great except you seem to have forgotten the part where you actually have to do something to make an exposure.
We're waiting......we have seen creationists who know a whole lot more than you have demonstrated and so far none of them have succeeded in refuting the actual Theory of Evolution.
Porky writes:
Willing to debate a persons belief but not the theory.
If you want to debate evolution, you should know the subject frontwards and backwards, otherwise, you make yourself look ridiculous.
You lose. You're going to need to up your game a whole lot if you want to find holes in the Theory of Evolution.
Porky writes:
Anyways I'll leave the rest of the debate to the fanatics on both sides and go back to a real science which doesn't accept the theoretical without it being shown in practice.
Yep, run away and boast how you defeated dozens of vicious fanatical evolutionists.
Don't come back until you know what a scientific theory is. Sheeeeesh.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 111 of 154 (818856)
09-03-2017 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by Larni
09-03-2017 5:26 PM


Re: WAS I NOT ABUSED???
Is this what a melt down looks like?
Of a marshmallow.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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