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Author Topic:   Evolution. We Have The Fossils. We Win.
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Message 437 of 2887 (817630)
08-18-2017 6:45 PM
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06-16-2017 8:58 AM


You can also see more here (scroll down to figure 4.2), which also includes copelemur as well as pelycodus.
As I have pointed out before the variations shown in that diagram are way less than the variations in dogs which are all regarded as one species. This is poor evidence of speciation.
That would be Drs. Tony Arnold (Ph.D., Harvard) and Bill Parker (Ph.D., Chicago)
Again, as previously pointed out, those are simply divisions of convenience and not real speciation events. All that can be said is that the fossils appear to vary gradually over time.

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Message 438 of 2887 (817632)
08-18-2017 6:52 PM
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06-16-2017 11:19 AM


What are "higher" animals?
Probably the same thing as Darwin meant.
quote:
Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most
exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the
production of the higher animals, directly follows.

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Message 440 of 2887 (818524)
08-30-2017 12:31 AM
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08-20-2017 9:12 AM


Higher Animals
Animals of relatively advanced or developed characteristics, such as mammals and other vertebrates. [Oxford dictionary]
... although the actual level of complexity is very hard to define or measure accurately in biology, with properties such as gene content, the number of cell types or morphology all being used to assess an organism's complexity. [Wikipedia]
Higher animals have specialised tissues and organs that contribute to the proper functioning of the whole animal [CRR]

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Message 442 of 2887 (818527)
08-30-2017 1:00 AM
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08-30-2017 12:55 AM


Re: Higher Animals
Earlier, like Charles Darwin, and probably before.
Mind the language.

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Message 449 of 2887 (818580)
08-30-2017 5:54 PM
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08-30-2017 1:22 AM


what are we talking about
We need to figure out just what we are talking about.
Feel free to contribute to the threads about defining "evolution" and "theory of evolution".

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Message 450 of 2887 (818581)
08-30-2017 5:57 PM
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08-30-2017 11:09 AM


Taq writes:
and yet you consider humans and chimps to be separate species.
They ARE separate species. They are also separate kinds.

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Message 453 of 2887 (818588)
08-30-2017 6:20 PM
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08-30-2017 6:16 PM


Dogs, Humans, Cats
Not only that but humans keep dogs as pets; and cats keep humans as pets.
Hey? What the ....

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Message 455 of 2887 (818970)
09-04-2017 6:21 PM
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08-30-2017 6:21 PM


There are similarities and differences. Humans, Chimps, Chihuahuas, and Great Danes all have a head, two forelimbs, two hind limbs, but only humans walk on two legs.

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Message 457 of 2887 (818977)
09-04-2017 8:10 PM
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09-04-2017 7:14 PM


Dogs can walk on two legs too. I've seen it. But humans are the only ones that habitually walk on two legs.

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Message 459 of 2887 (818979)
09-04-2017 8:24 PM
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09-04-2017 8:19 PM



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