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Topic: Evolution. We Have The Fossils. We Win.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 8 of 2887 (767912)
09-03-2015 12:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by Faith
09-03-2015 11:59 AM
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Faith writes: Creatures of a kind are found together, just as they are found in life.
So you're saying that dinosaurs existed in Noah's time but they never ate cows? I wonder why. Edited by ringo, : Changed "exited" to "existed" - though the dinosaurs exiting also works.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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mike writes: ... but then what are you saying - that bats looking like bats is NOT what we would expect if creation was true?
If creation was true, we wouldn't expect bats and whales to have the same "kind" of hands. Putting the same structures in airplanes and submarines is not good design.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 286 of 2887 (774017)
12-12-2015 11:20 AM
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Reply to: Message 281 by Big_Al35
12-12-2015 6:05 AM
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Big_Al35 writes: Well if you can have giant lizards, why not have giant humans.
It isn't so much that we "can't" have giant humans - but we don't. It's hypothetically possible for humans to have evolved with strong enough bones and muscles for dinosaur size - but they didn't. It's hypothetically possible for there to be an island the size of Australia in the middle of the Pacific Ocean - but there isn't.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 320 of 2887 (774123)
12-13-2015 1:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 317 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 1:15 PM
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Big_Al35 writes: Maybe because it suggests devolution rather than evolution.
There's no difference between evolution and devolution - so nobody would mind if evidence turned up that we're just stunted giants, or that our skulls shortened.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 360 of 2887 (775169)
12-29-2015 10:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 356 by Big_Al35
12-29-2015 9:04 AM
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Big_Al35 writes: Because you have presented no evidence for giants
Actually I have - but you chose to ignore it.
Your evidence was not ignored; it was evaluated. It turns out that your interpretation of the evidence is incorrect.
Big_Al35 writes: Megalithic structures eg the Sacsayhauman.
Mega-structures are not evidence of mega-humans.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 416 of 2887 (776232)
01-10-2016 2:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 404 by Big_Al35
01-09-2016 5:08 PM
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Big_Al35 writes: Well if you were a globalist, what would be the best way to supress genuine photos of giants?
A better question would be, "Why would globalists want to suppress knowledge of giants?" Nobody supresses knowledge of dinosaurs or other extinct species. Why giants? Another pertinent question would be, "Why do you think photographs of (purported) fossils have any relevance?" If the fossils exist, show us the fossils; let us examine them - figure out how old they are, etc. All photographs, whether genuine or fake, are second-rate evidence. Show us the real thing.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 422 of 2887 (776271)
01-11-2016 10:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 418 by Blue Jay
01-10-2016 10:33 PM
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Blue jay writes: I don't know about you, but personally, I think I'm better at identifying fake photographs than I am at identifying fake fossils;
I'm not talking about us personally. I'm talking about the scientific community.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 424 of 2887 (776273)
01-11-2016 10:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 419 by Big_Al35
01-11-2016 9:38 AM
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Big_aL35 writes: This says to me that you need to do some background reading first. I can't and more importantly won't do this for you.
This is a science forum, so that is in fact exactly what you have to do if you want to be taken seriously - present your evidence. Otherwise, you might as well be Dr. Seuss.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 461 of 2887 (819041)
09-05-2017 12:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 457 by CRR
09-04-2017 8:10 PM
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CRR writes: But humans are the only ones that habitually walk on two legs.
Humans are also the only ones that habitually ingest alcohol and a plethora of other dangerous chemicals. What do bad habits have to do with anything?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 486 of 2887 (822410)
10-24-2017 12:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 481 by Dredge
10-23-2017 11:23 PM
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Re: Let me help
Dredge writes: - does a fish grow a foot overnight?
See "mutation". But it does take a while for the feet to spread out into a population.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 502 of 2887 (824359)
11-27-2017 11:17 AM
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Reply to: Message 500 by Phat
11-27-2017 8:23 AM
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Re: what a pathetic God Dredge markets
Phat writes: Not too many people read the Bible in order to critique it. They are searching for GOD....that character whom we all seek in order to receive a promise of a better tomorrow
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LECTOR, SI MONUMENTUM REQUIRIS CIRCUMSPICE
(Reader, if you seek his monument look around you.)
That's Sir Christopher Wren's epitaph, written on his tomb in St. Paul's Cathedral, which he designed. To paraphrase, "If you seek God, look at His cathedral, not the brochure."
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 508 of 2887 (824419)
11-28-2017 11:01 AM
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Reply to: Message 504 by Phat
11-27-2017 4:40 PM
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Re: what a pathetic God Dredge markets
Phat writes: Many would argue that we are the Cathedral...
We're only part of the cathedral.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 572 of 2887 (824931)
12-05-2017 11:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 565 by Dredge
12-04-2017 7:09 PM
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Dredge writes: If we have collected one million fossils so far, this might represent only 0.033% of all fossils, which is hardly a statistically significant sample size.
On the contrary, "all of the fossils we have" is a sample size of 100%. All of the fossils we have point to the same conclusions, and they're also the same conclusions pointed to by other completely independent areas such as DNA, dating methods, etc. And even if the Green Party candidate gets 80% of those 0.033 % of the votes, we can safely predict that he isn't going to be President - because of the other evidence.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 591 of 2887 (825490)
12-15-2017 10:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 583 by Dredge
12-14-2017 10:15 PM
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Dredge writes: Don't mention the Green Party ever again; they're demonic.
So good stewardship to you is "demonic"?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 603 of 2887 (826156)
12-23-2017 10:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 601 by Dredge
12-22-2017 10:35 PM
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Re: what a pathetic God/World/Univers Dredge markets
Dredge writes: If you have won the argument that all life on earth evolved from microbes, then you have won nothing - it is completely useless information.
Granted, information is useless to microbes and creationists - but for the rest of us it's still nice to have.
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