Message 22 of 22 (819091)
09-06-2017 2:00 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by riVeRraT
09-04-2017 10:29 PM
Re: Ignorance In Office Or Change?
riVeRraT responds to me:
When did I say I didn't know. I know, you don't.
Oh, lord...do I need to start keeping a record of all your posts again so that I can bring it up every time you try to say you didn't say something?
From Message 13 of this thread:
|You do understand that they are not part of the left, yes? They are anarchists. They have been denounced by the left.|
Nope sorry, didn't get that memo.
So when you say that you never said you didn't know, you're not exactly being truthful, now are you?
We're right back to my original claim:
Yep...just like I pegged you for: Ignorance is OK for you but not for others. So long as you can claim you didn't know, then you can claim you're innocent.
And you'll keep insisting that you didn't say it no matter how many times you say it again.
umm, The left created them.
Ummm...no, they didn't. That's from antifa, themselves. No matter how much Fox/Breitbart/Stormfront wants to lie to you and tell you otherwise, that doesn't make it so. Antifa knows where they came from and they are not part of the left. They have specifically stated so.
They are anarchists.
What about him? Do you honestly not know his history? What am I thinking? Of course you're going to say that you do and when you are asked to compare and contrast the Byrd of 2006 with the Byrd of 1946, you'll hem and haw and bluster and avoid and evade and distract.
Isn't it odd that a former member of the Ku Klux Klan would eventually get a 100% rating from the NAACP and get positive reviews from the ACLU?
White supremacy was also created by democrats.
Yep. And the Democratic Party of 1860 is precisely the same as the one of 1960.
Nice little talking point you've got going there. Shame it doesn't connect with reality. If white supremacists are Democrats, why did they vote for Trump?
Please refer to globalist.
Dog whistle heard loud and clear.
Your anti-Semitism is showing.
Please stop lumping all people you think are on the right, on the right, you sound bigoted.
If you don't like being associated with bigots, then stop associating with them. If you don't like being accused of courting them, then stop courting them. If you don't like being accused of being a bigot, then stop acting like one.
You seem to be confused: Refusal to accept bigotry is not bigotry against the bigoted.
Again, who is "the left"?
The ones who identify as such.
That's why there's no such thing as the "alt-left." Nobody claims to be such. That Trump (and you) want to cast about to find somebody, anybody to distract from the reality of the situation that conservatism in general and Republicans in particular have actively and deliberately courted the white supremacist, neo-Nazi constituency by calling any random group "alt-left" doesn't make it so.
It is everyone's problem.
Why? Do you see anybody claiming them for their own? Do you see any major political operatives actively courting them? Can you name a single member of any administration that has put one of them into their administration?
Just because *you're* hyperventilating doesn't mean there's a reason to be pissing your pants. But then again, this isn't about them being any real threat. It is nothing but a distraction from the reality of the situation: Your party and ideology has actively and purposefully courted the white supremacists and neo-Nazis. You've been caught and now you're trying to avoid and evade.
And not because you're actually looking to avoid having to take responsibility. Instead, you are avoiding and evading so that you can continue to court them, continue to implement their bigotry, and hope nobody notices.
Quick question: When the right and the left gather for protest rallies, which is the side that brings the guns, shields, military gear, etc.?
And since antifa isn't left, how will you answer my question?
Are you claiming that those white supremacists chanting, "Jews will not replace us!" were really on the left?
Millions of gun owners have been patiently watching and standing by.
Patiently? You mean deliberately marching with an intent to commit violence such that you end up killing a woman and beating a man nearly to death is "standing by"?
Why are they bringing their guns and riot gear if they're not intending to use it?
You know all those "violent gun owners on the right" are going to save your sorry ass when the time comes.
On the contrary: They're going to shoot themselves first. You do understand that, yes? If you have a gun, the most likely way it will be used is against yourself. It will hardly ever be used to "save" someone.
And note the double-standard: It's OK for you to have a gun, but it's the end of the world if someone else decides to arm themselves in response to that.
As you have witnessed there are some pretty cool heads on the real right.
They're all "real."
The GOP is Trump.
Trump is the GOP.
And they've all courted the racist, white supremacist, neo-Nazis.
That's why Trump called them "us."
Maybe do some studying on militia groups and what they actually do, not what you hear on CNN (the biggest bullshit network out there ATM)
OK...how about the FBI? They did, after all, put out a report on terrorism in the US, especially right-wing terrorism.
Oh, that's right...you've conveniently "not heard" about their study of terrorism in the US and determined that the largest source of terrorism in the US is right-wing militias. More than left-wing. More than "jihadists." Those white supremacists and neo-Nazis you're defending are the biggest terrorist threat in the US. It's been that way for nearly 30 years.
But the FBI is "bullshit," right? They don't know anything about it, right?
There is direct funding.
Except there isn't or you'd have provided evidence by now.
To BLM and other hate groups as well.
BLM is not a hate group and has no ties to antifa.
You need to stop watching Fox/Breitbart/Stormfront. They are lying to you. Just because you feel "targeted" by BLM doesn't mean they hate you.
It means you're probably engaging in or supporting racism and are being called out on it.
Remember: Fighting against bigotry is not bigotry against bigots.
It's not just from the left, it is from the globalists.
There's that dog whistle again.
We get it. You're an anti-Semite. Just come out and say it and stop trying to hide it.
Stop thinking in terms of left and right. open your mind a bit.
Remember when I mentioned "credibility"? There is no credibility in you lecturing anybody bout "thinking."
Trumps statement was 100% legit.
And thus, you prove my point.
Hint: Lies are not "legit." They are the opposite of "legit."
You see, Trump doesn't think. He simply reacts. Unable to speak coherently about any topic, he falls back to his core attitude of racism and victimhood. Thus, we are not surprised that he makes a speech supporting white supremacists and neo-Nazis and then claims to be shocked (SHOCKED, I tell you) that people don't take kindly to it.
And that leads us to you, little narrow-minded, racist anti-Semite that you are.
And what the fuck does "given your history mean"?
And we're back to my comment about "credibility" and you feigning innocence. I think on my old computer I still have my little file of your quotes that I repeatedly posted whenever you tried to claim that you never said something. This was before there was any real searching on the board (which even now is somewhat difficult to manage). Do you want me to do look for it?
In the meantime, I'll just use the searching here:
Message 103 where I responded to your claim that:
|I want you to know, that I do not think my idea of God is mightier than anyone else's, and that I do not have a problem with other religions, or atheists. God created it all, so there is a purpose for it.|
So I posted your own statements:
So yes, riVeRraT. You have a long history of bigotry in general and anti-Semitism in particular.
I stand behind every single thing I wrote in this forum, all 5000+ posts.
I'm sure you do. That doesn't stop you from being a racist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot.
When I was wrong or learned something, I admitted it.
That's just precious.
Maybe it's your history we should be concerned about, Mr.4th demension.
Right...because if you aren't smart enough to understand it, then anybody who does is just itching for a fight.
My statement is legit also.
So since antifa directly contradicts you, then that must mean...
...that YOU are antifa!
It's a known fact for years now.
"Years"? Do you even know the history of anti-fascism?
Maybe back in the 80's when the Euro was started (the start of globalism and the NWO) it was conspiracy.
Dude...we heard the dog whistle. Just stop it and say it out in the open.
Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.
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