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Message 3 of 53 (819117)
09-06-2017 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
09-05-2017 9:49 PM


Irma is a Whopper
quote:
With a tightly defined eye, high maximum winds and gusts of up to 195 knots or 225 mph Irma has left weather forecasters flabbergasted.
"I am at a complete and utter loss for words looking at Irma's appearance on satellite imagery," NHC scientist Taylor Trogdon said Tuesday night, reacting to images of the storm's tight and powerful spiral.
Jose is next, although preliminary forecasts have that tropical storm spinning out to sea.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 12 of 53 (819152)
09-07-2017 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by jar
09-07-2017 7:52 AM


Irma Ranks Among Longest-Lived Category 5 Hurricanes
Irma is compiling records for hurricanes.
quote:
Hurricane Irma Meteorological Records/Notable Facts Recap (through
September 6 at 11pm EDT)
Note: Lifetime refers to storm lifetime to date
Intensity Measures
- 185 mph lifetime max winds — tied with Florida Keys (1935), Gilbert (1988) and Wilma (2005) for second strongest max winds of all time in Atlantic hurricane. (Allen had max winds of 190 mph in 1980)
- 185 mph lifetime max winds — making it the strongest storm on record to impact the Leeward Islands, defined as 15-19N, 65-60W for this calculation.
Okeechobee Hurricane (1928) and David (1979) were previous strongest at 160
mph
- 185 mph lifetime max winds — the strongest storm to exist outside of the
Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico on record
- 185 mph max winds for 33 hours — the longest any cyclone around the globe has
maintained that intensity on record. The previous record was Haiyan in the NW
Pacific at 24 hours
- 914 mb lifetime minimum central pressure — lowest since Dean (2007) and 10th
lowest in satellite era (since 1966)
- 914 mb lifetime minimum central pressure — lowest pressure by an Atlantic
hurricane outside of the western Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico on record
- First Category 5 hurricane in the Atlantic since Matthew (2016) and first
Category 5 hurricane in the tropical Atlantic (7.5-20N, 60-20W) since Hugo
(1989)
- 1.75 days as a Category 5 hurricane — tied with David (1979), Mitch (1998) and
Isabel (2003) for 4th most Category 5 hurricane days on record
Integrated Measures
- Generated the most Accumulated Cyclone Energy by a tropical cyclone on
record in the tropical Atlantic (7.5-20N, 60-20W)

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 17 of 53 (819222)
09-08-2017 2:21 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Tanypteryx
09-07-2017 10:05 PM


Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew. They estimate that Irma will cause 50 billion dollars in damage to the United States. (Some insurance underwriters say the bill could be 300 billion with a direct hit on Miami)
This is based on the 26 billion that Andrew caused, extrapolated into 2017 dollars. Look at the relative size of Irma compared with Andrew(Images superimposed)
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Phat
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Message 28 of 53 (819374)
09-10-2017 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by RAZD
09-10-2017 7:27 AM


Florida Keys hit first...
One disgruntled resident ranted that the forecasts had been for the eastern side of Florida until recently and he was mad at the weather service for misleading him!

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Phat
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Message 31 of 53 (819394)
09-10-2017 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Diomedes
09-10-2017 11:01 AM


Irma is now a 3
So you stayed home?
The good news is that due to Irma being on land, the storm is now a Cat 3 and will begin to diminish....being a huge storm, however...the effects will still be severe....but the worst case scenarios have not materialized, thank God.
Marco Island and Naples are the likely path at this point.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Phat
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Message 34 of 53 (819481)
09-11-2017 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Pressie
09-11-2017 6:21 AM


The Bills Are Piling Up
ABC News writes:
Combined damage from Hurricanes Harvey and Irma could cost the U.S. economy as much as $290 billion, according to a new forecast.
Hurricane Harvey, which battered Houston with record amounts of rain and flooding last month, is estimated to be one of the costliest weather disasters in U.S. history, and Irma is expected to cause record-breaking damage as well, AccuWeather President Joel Myers said in a statement Sunday.
"We believe the damage estimate from Irma to be about $100 billion among the costliest hurricanes of all time. This amounts to 0.5 of a percentage point of the GDP of $19 trillion," Myers said. "We estimated that Hurricane Harvey is to be the costliest weather disaster in U.S. history, at $190 billion, or 1 full percentage point of the GDP."
"Together, AccuWeather predicts, these two disasters amount to 1.5 of a percentage point of the GDP, which will about equal and therefore counter the natural growth of the economy for the period of mid-August through the end of the fourth quarter," he added.
Of course since Trump advocates eliminating the debt ceiling, no problem, right? Unless global creditors ever question our ability to repay....

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Phat
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Message 53 of 53 (820354)
09-19-2017 1:21 PM


How Do You Solve A Problem Like Maria?
A new one is now a category 5:
Potentially Catastrophic' Hurricane Maria Devastates Dominica, Heads For Puerto Rico

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

  
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