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CRR
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Message 241 of 252 (819361)
09-10-2017 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 239 by NoNukes
09-09-2017 9:14 AM


Re: Genetic Differences
Here, you just need to backtrack from Percy's message.
Supplementary Figure 7: Gene family expansions and contractions. (264 KB)
(a) Inferred gene gains (red) and losses (blue) in 8,877 gene families shared by 10 mammalian species are reported for each branch of the tree. (b) Number of gains (red) and losses (blue) per million years for each branch of the tree; human (H), chimpanzee (C), human and chimp (HC), orangutan (O), apes (A), rhesus macaque (M), apes and Old World monkeys (AO), marmoset (Cj), primates (P), mouse (S), rat (R), rodents (N), primates and rodents (PN), dog (D), horse (E), dog and horse (DE), cow (B) and Afrotheria (Af).
(I'm pretty sure the colours are swapped between graphs despite what the legend says)
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CRR
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Message 243 of 252 (819424)
09-10-2017 9:16 PM
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09-10-2017 7:57 PM


Re: Genetic Differences
(b) Number of gains (red) and losses (blue) per million years ...

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CRR
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Message 245 of 252 (819439)
09-11-2017 7:44 AM
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09-10-2017 11:12 PM


Re: Genetic Differences
Thanks for the good link. Suppl. Fig 7
If you look at figure (b) you will notice the blue bar for humans is the highest of the lot, about 5-6 times the average, and to match figure (a) that should be gains. I didn't do any specific calculations to confirm that this but checking now 1439/6 (million years)=240 so that matches gains shown in figure (a).

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CRR
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Message 249 of 252 (819486)
09-11-2017 5:47 PM
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09-11-2017 10:52 AM


Re: Genetic Differences
The grand question is what does all of this have to do with the topic in the opening post?
Not much, but these forums often drift off into side issues.
I've already said I'm not interested in answering the original topic because it is set up as a no win proposition.

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