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Faith 
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Message 472 of 899 (819679)
09-13-2017 8:44 PM
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09-13-2017 8:38 PM


Re: Paradigm Clashes And Evidence
the evidence is often the same but the interpretation or conclusions different. The strata and the fossils are the evidence used by Old Earthers to prove the ancient earth and evolution, but I think they are better used to prove the Flood.

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Message 473 of 899 (819680)
09-13-2017 8:45 PM
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09-13-2017 8:37 PM


Re: trilobites are trilobites are trilobites
The trilobites you illustrate are obviously still trilobites, just different breeds or varieties.

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Message 475 of 899 (819685)
09-13-2017 8:55 PM
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09-13-2017 8:51 PM


Re: Again, the Geo Column shows the absurdity of the OE/ToE
The question is Which others? A gaggle of biased anticreationists? Ha ha de ha.
OK I'll make an effort to review your posts but the rebuttals do tend to be the same old same old so what's the point? I state my case, you state yours. That's the best that ever happens here.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 477 of 899 (819690)
09-13-2017 9:08 PM
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09-13-2017 8:51 PM


Re: Again, the Geo Column shows the absurdity of the OE/ToE
There is no way to "rebut" the huge flat sedimentary rocks.

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Message 479 of 899 (819692)
09-13-2017 9:13 PM
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09-13-2017 9:11 PM


Re: trilobites are trilobites are trilobites
You kidding that isn't sa recognizable trilobite?
there is OBVIOUSLY one species of trilobites with many microevolved varieties thereof. The idea that they should be classified into anything other than Species is specious.
How do you suppose it got called a trilobite anyway if it isn't recognizable as a trilobite? The taxonomic classification system is entirely a matter of subjective judgment.
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Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 483 of 899 (819696)
09-13-2017 9:26 PM
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09-13-2017 9:19 PM


Re: Again, the Geo Column shows the absurdity of the OE/ToE
you meant message 435 not 235.
Hold your horses. I've been dragged into this discussion kicking and screaming, I didn't want to pursue my whole argument on this thread, I simply wanted to restate my points which are going to remain standing anyway you know because none of the rebuttals have ever dealt with them and it's time somebody acknowledged their validity. Not that I'm holding my breath. In this environment they will NEVER get a fair hearing.
BUT I WILL NOW TAKE A BREAK FROM THIS MESS AND DEAL WITH THE POSTS YOU REFER ME TO LATER.
And thank you for ceasing toning down your abusive personal attacks.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 486 of 899 (819700)
09-13-2017 9:51 PM
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09-13-2017 9:35 PM


Re: Atheistic science?
Just for the record I don't follow much of what is known as Creation Science, though I've gotten some leads from them, but mostly I think it all through on my own. And I'm not trying to prove God this way, I simply happen to think that there is evidence in the physical world that strongly supports the Flood and does not support the establishment point of view. I'd LOVE to blast the false theory of evolution into the next millennium and I believe the evidence is there, really there whether you or anybody else sees it or not. Jesus will probably have come back well before the next millennium anyway and then they'll know, but it would be SO satisfying to blast the smithereens out of that mind and soul destroyer before then..

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Message 490 of 899 (819704)
09-13-2017 10:32 PM
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09-13-2017 10:04 PM


Re: trilobites are trilobites are trilobites
Why stop with mammals? Why not include reptiles, whatever group they together belong to? They also could be described in much the same terms as mammals. What's the next category up? It could probably make a species too if we put our minds to it.
In other words, we need more specificity here. But not as much specificity that we have a bunch of different species of trilobites. I don't find it hard to split the pie myself, but perhaps you do?

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Message 502 of 899 (819718)
09-14-2017 7:46 AM
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09-14-2017 7:43 AM


Re: Millions of aternating layers Faith
Cut the personal comments Percy. Didn't you write the rule against that?

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Message 515 of 899 (819750)
09-14-2017 3:22 PM
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09-14-2017 2:20 PM


After that I did not run away, I posted more substantially. But I may yet run away, we'll see.

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Faith 
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Message 517 of 899 (819752)
09-14-2017 3:32 PM
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09-14-2017 8:32 AM


Re: Millions of aternating layers Faith
Gosh most of those are me complaining about YOU guys insulting ME and you turn that against ME? Wow. And some others are me ridiculing the argument, not the person. Wow.

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Faith 
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Message 518 of 899 (819753)
09-14-2017 3:34 PM
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09-14-2017 3:25 PM


Now who's lying? I've made the argument over and over here, MADE IT, proved it, even on this thread but certainly very thoroughly on others.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 519 of 899 (819754)
09-14-2017 3:37 PM
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09-14-2017 11:42 AM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
I'm happy to go back to putting Green River in the OE column. I have arguments that work, I don't need another.

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Faith 
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Message 520 of 899 (819755)
09-14-2017 3:41 PM
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09-14-2017 7:36 AM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
More generally, if sediments deposited today are not part of the geologic column, what are they part of?
Nothing, they're just sediments being deposited here and there, not part of anything.

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Message 523 of 899 (819758)
09-14-2017 3:45 PM
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09-14-2017 8:44 AM


Re: Again, the Geo Column shows the absurdity of the OE/ToE
Enough is enough. I've made the case many times. If you ever feel like recognizing that fact I may feel more like participating.

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