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Author Topic:   Elections are won in the primaries
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Message 10 of 113 (820735)
09-25-2017 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
09-22-2017 10:16 AM


RAZD writes:
Time to run alternative candidates in republican primaries ...
Fiscally conservative
Working family centered
It is certainly doable. What we would need is for Progressives to register Republican and support a Progressive candidate in the primaries. In states with open primaries it isn't even necessary to register with a party. It's not as if there is a lie detector at the polling place, so you can vote in whichever primary you want to. Given the relatively low turnout for primaries it wouldn't take much to make a large impact.
Obviously, this can't be planned in private so Republicans will see it coming a mile away. Their response would certainly be interesting. Would they try to drum up higher turnout for primaries, or have their voters register as Democrats and nominate a staunch conservative in the Democratic primaries? Things get interesting when voters start moving off of their normal strategies.

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Message 21 of 113 (820784)
09-27-2017 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by dwise1
09-27-2017 1:17 AM


Re: Voting for republicans -- in the primary
dwise1 writes:
Rather, knowing that the Republicans are not his friends, how could he have voted Republican?
Because he detests liberals more than he dislikes Republicans.
I think I am about the only Democrat in my immediate family, and I live in a deep red state (Idaho), so I think I can speak with some authority on the issue. If family discussions tend towards politics I just shut up and start taking notes. It is absolutely fascinating.
If there is one thread that runs through my family's loyalty to the Republican party is their false sense of persecution. They think the liberals are out to do away with Christians and Christianity. There is also a strong racist tone to it as well, but it leans more towards xenophobia. They have watched the world around them change drastically (e.g. gay rights, black president, internet) and it frightens them. Look up the craziest conspiracy theories found on Snopes.com and those are the things coming out of my mother's mouth. The one bright spot is that some of my family is at least open to the idea of single payer universal healthcare.
Overall, they view Democrats as the Devil, literally and figuratively. Any disagreements they have with the Republican party is not going to be enough to push them to the Democrats. Their party of choice is baked in at this point, as it is further supported by the people they talk to at church and drink coffee with at the local diner in a town of 600. There are times when I wish I could secretly video tape their discussions on politics and post it online. I think a lot of jaws would hit the floor.

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Message 24 of 113 (820792)
09-27-2017 3:20 PM
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09-27-2017 3:08 PM


ringo writes:
I don't think that's true. Trump is Trump and even that changes from day to day.
The GOP tried everything in their bag of tricks to keep him out. They'd gladly get rid of him if they could.
That's only because he is erratic and a PR nightmare. As far as policy goes, he is as Republican as it gets. Even his supposed giant infrastructure plans are nothing more than 1 trillion in tax cuts to construction companies. The road that led to Trump started with Newt Gingrich in the Clinton years when Republicans decided that their best strategy was just to oppose whatever the Democrats came up with.

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Message 26 of 113 (820797)
09-27-2017 4:14 PM
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09-27-2017 3:54 PM


ringo writes:
What policy? The Republican Congress won't touch anything he proposes.
Massive tax cuts for the rich. Muslim ban. Border security. Ending Obamacare and kicking people off of Medicaid. Throwing away the nuke deal with Iran. Throwing out regulations in order to allow large companies to pollute more.

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