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Message 4251 of 5179 (770325)
10-03-2015 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 4249 by Faith
10-03-2015 3:03 PM


Re: a social problem with a social solution
But your comment is a non sequitur anyway since it's not about prayer
I was trying to be sarcastic......

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 4255 of 5179 (770329)
10-03-2015 3:39 PM
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10-03-2015 3:23 PM


Re: a social problem with a social solution
If you aim to be sarcastic, it helps to be sarcastic about the relevant topic.
Oh, I was.
The topic I was sarcastic about was your delusion that your prayers will bring about useful changes in gun violence in our country. You seem to imply that your god and Jesus are pro-gun and second amendment.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 4257 of 5179 (770331)
10-03-2015 3:55 PM
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10-03-2015 3:43 PM


Re: a social problem with a social solution
As I said, the reason we aren't seeing the results of prayer is that we aren't praying enough or in the right way.
Or, the power of prayer is a delusion.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 4279 of 5179 (770370)
10-04-2015 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 4277 by Faith
10-04-2015 1:10 PM


Re: Increase in killings, psychotropic drugs, moral degeneration, conspiracies
Faith writes:
Here's a list off the top of my head:
  • Abortion made legal
  • Tolerance of sex outside marriage, popularized among celebrities (even Prince William and Kate in England lived together before marrying); rise in single parent families as a result {"Thou shalt not commit adultery" which includes all sex outside marriage)
  • Eased divorce laws ("God hates divorce")
  • Nineteen states have eliminated the death penalty (scripture says whoever takes a human life must forfeit his own because human beings are made in the image of God)
  • God's marriage ordinance extended to homosexuals, though homosexuality is defined as a sin in scripture.
A couple more to add to your list:
  • In God We Trust added to our money
  • Under God add to the Pledge of Allegiance

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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    Tanypteryx
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    Message 4294 of 5179 (770398)
    10-04-2015 11:18 PM
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    10-04-2015 9:17 PM


    Re: Increase in killings, psychotropic drugs, moral degeneration, conspiracies
    Do you think mass shootings are a bad thing?
    Do you think mass shootings of Christians are a bad thing?
    Do you think mass shootings of non-Christians are a bad thing?
    Do you think mass shootings of atheists is a bad thing?
    Do you have any suggestions on how mass shootings can be stopped considering that there is the second amendment, hundreds of millions of guns and almost anyone can buy a gun and pretty much all of the politicians are either paid off by or afraid of the gun lobby? Anything?
    I realize that mass shootings are a small percentage of the gunshot deaths.
    Do you have any solution for those?
    And while I'm asking questions, should irresponsible hunters like Dick Cheney ever be allowed to own a gun or have a hunting license again?

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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    Message 4333 of 5179 (770460)
    10-05-2015 11:47 PM
    Reply to: Message 4322 by marc9000
    10-05-2015 8:17 PM


    Re: Increase in killings, psychotropic drugs, moral degeneration, conspiracies
    I don't have a solution for 40,000 or so traffic deaths per year either. I don't believe the government is the solution to every problem.
    I'm sorry to hear that. That's what I was hoping you could solve next.
    You do realize that solving problems is exactly the reason we have a government, don't you? There are some problems that happen everywhere and that individuals cannot solve. That is the purpose of government. And, of course, there are problems that even government cannot solve, especially when there are a bunch of assholes who are intentionally trying to fuck up everything that government is supposed to do.
    I knew it!!! The Katie Couric "gotcha" question is here!
    Wow! I wasn't sure I could pull it off, but you actually seem genuinely surprised that the question was right there in plain sight and you didn't see it until you got to the end.
    But I do think irresponsible liberals like Al Gore, who raised a lot of money from his "earth in the balance" book sales, should be required to donate a percentage of his profits to mental health research,
    Nice deflection. Doesn't have shit to do with guns, but you do seem to have a short attention span.
    since his prediction of polar ice caps being completely melted by 2013 was much worse than an accident, it was a blatent lie, told mainly to upset and scare people, particularly children, and mental health patients who might choose to go on killing sprees that target Christians, since Christians are linked to conservatism, and conservatives are linked to productivity that is associated with global warming.
    I think it is clear that someone is in serious need of help from a mental health care professional. I would not be surprised if you can get help paying for that, maybe even from Al Gore.

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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    Message 4475 of 5179 (773280)
    11-27-2015 9:52 PM


    Another nut doing the lord's work
    Another gun nut exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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    Message 4478 of 5179 (773495)
    12-02-2015 5:50 PM


    Another one
    Police: At least 14 dead in San Bernardino shooting; suspects have fled

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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    Tanypteryx
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    Message 4482 of 5179 (773504)
    12-02-2015 10:36 PM
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    12-02-2015 9:38 PM


    Re: Another one
    Yep, makes me feel so safe. I need more guns.....if I get a big enough pile I can hide behind them.

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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    Message 5010 of 5179 (813818)
    06-30-2017 11:29 PM
    Reply to: Message 5009 by Tangle
    06-30-2017 1:19 PM


    Trump voters.

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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    Message 5013 of 5179 (813898)
    07-02-2017 12:10 AM
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    07-01-2017 11:25 AM


    Well at least those Trump voters are shooting their selves rather than being like those Bernie supporters who are shooting others.
    My comment was blurted out without really connecting to other events in the "news". Just a reaction to the irony of hard-line gun nuts shooting themselves and each other, proving they are not intelligent enough to be trusted with firearms.
    I've been almost entirely without news since May 24. By news, I mean information about events that impact people or things or places I care about.
    A month without the good or the bad has been quite refreshing. Now I have to decide how much I will let currents events intrude in my space.

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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    Tanypteryx
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    Message 5039 of 5179 (821099)
    10-02-2017 12:28 PM


    Las Vegas
    Las Vegas Shooting Is Deadliest in Modern U.S. History
    This must be fake news.....

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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    Tanypteryx
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    Message 5041 of 5179 (821107)
    10-02-2017 2:37 PM
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    10-02-2017 12:28 PM


    Re: Las Vegas
    I feel a lot better now that I hear Congress sends their prayers and thoughts. And Trump says now isn't the time to talk about guns.
    This could have been so much better if the Hearing Protection Act, introduced by Reps. Jeff Duncan, R-S.C., and John Carter, R-Texas, in January and now part of the omnibus Sportsmen’s Heritage and Recreational Enhancement (SHARE) Act, a bill self-described "to provide for the preservation of sportsmen’s heritage and enhance recreation opportunities on Federal land, and for other purposes."
    quote:
    The Hearing Protection Act removes silencers from the Internal Revenue Code's definition of "firearms," which could ultimately make it easier for individuals to purchase them without the background checks required for firearm buyers. It further eliminates a $200 tax on the sound suppressors.
    My heart goes out to all the people whose hearing was damaged last night. /sarcasm

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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    Message 5043 of 5179 (821142)
    10-03-2017 1:25 AM
    Reply to: Message 5042 by Dr Adequate
    10-02-2017 9:26 PM


    I'm fine, by the way.
    Good to hear. I thought about you this morning.

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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    Message 5050 of 5179 (821198)
    10-03-2017 2:59 PM
    Reply to: Message 5047 by ringo
    10-03-2017 12:27 PM


    Re: Las Vegas
    Silencers are for hearing protection?
    Really?
    Somebody had the unmitigated gall to introduce...? And they haven't been taken away in straight-jackets?
    This is from the NRA who would shower in the blood of gunshot victims if they could. And the shit for brains Republicans who are actually the stupidest humans on this planet. This is evidence of what you get when you mix evil and stupid.

    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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