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Theodoric
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Message 5080 of 5179 (821303)
10-05-2017 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 5063 by DrJones*
10-04-2017 4:01 PM


Re: silencers
The problem in the US is that those that know guns the most(The NRA) are writing the laws. Then they get their stooges in congress to pass them. Or they get their stooges to block any law they do not like.
This whole hunters need silencers is a red herring. I hunt, I have shot guns since I was a teen. When I shoot I use hearing protection. If you do not wear hearing protection that is your problem.
The sound of gun fire allows for safe discharge of weapons. Also, here in the country it allows us to know if someone is illegally shooting or poaching on our property. In the last 5 years I have caught 5 poachers because of the sound of gunfire. Also, people shoot on public land around here. The sound of gunfire is an effective warning signal.
No one has yet produced an adequate reasonable argument why a legal, ethical hunter needs a suppressor. Maybe you can be the first.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
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Message 5081 of 5179 (821304)
10-05-2017 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 5079 by Phat
10-05-2017 11:03 AM


Re: Forensic Panel Profiles Vegas Killer
Here is a good place for you to start. Look at the ownership of media outlets. Don't fall for propaganda do your own research.

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Theodoric
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Message 5088 of 5179 (821324)
10-05-2017 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 5086 by Phat
10-05-2017 12:14 PM


Re: Forensic Panel Profiles Vegas Killer
Personally I think we need to wait for the experts and law enforcement to come up with the evidence or reasoning for his actions. Armchair psychology does no one any use.

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Theodoric
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Message 5095 of 5179 (821369)
10-06-2017 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 5094 by New Cat's Eye
10-05-2017 8:44 PM


Re: silencers
If you're poaching, then breaking another law may not bother you, I dunno.
That is just a plain silly argument. You are saying why have laws, people will just break them. This argument actually undermines your stance.
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But the entire argument misses the point, because the purpose of laws is to describe the most ideal set of rules and conditions that, when followed, produce socially optimal outcomes.Punishment in the form of fines, jail time, and social opprobrium functions as the enforcement mechanism behind these laws.So, it should be clear that the point of law has nothing to do with its adherence; that’s the point of law enforcement.
I friend of mine from Texas had problems with wild hogs on his property. He was telling me about how suppressors were legal and they needed them to get rid of the hogs - they come in packs and it helps to get more than just one of them when they don't scatter as bad because the noise of the gunshots is a little quieter.
I can see how it'd help with hunting.
That is not hunting. That is pest control.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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