General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')

The problem I see is when belief is substituted for evidence, and then defended in spite of contrary evidence.And to compound the problem, they claim it to be science in spite of it being the exact opposite of science.You can't have it both ways. Either you adhere to the standards of science, or you don't. I know a lot of creationists and other apologists want to have the good reputation of science associated with their beliefs, but it just doesn't work that way. You have to earn your reputation, whether it is for science as a whole or any particular branch.

I think the 48-hour suspensions of PaulK and Faith are too much.

True.But without creationists to try to educate, as hopeless as that often is, we'd have about 90% fewer posts in those threads and the remaining posts would be largely in agreement. And we'd be missing out on a lot of fun reading the absolutely silly things creationists come up with in the guise of science when what they're doing (as everyone knows) is pure religious apologetics.The pretzels they have to twist their arguments into to try to appear scientific, while being the exact opposite, are quite amusing.And it all helps us to refine our arguments, which isn't a bad thing.So, I'd favor being a little lax in the science threads.

We don't need pure cranks here.We have a lot of good debates with our creationists (e.g., Faith), but pure cranks should be encouraged to go elsewhere.

I appreciate your concerns, but...At some point all you can do is laugh.

This place is boring without Faith.

He's trolling us. He's deliberately lying to get a reaction.From Wiki:

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.

I would have thought that was against Forum Guidelines.

Re: Message 239Davidjay is deliberately generating and repeating falsehoods. We all know nobody on the evolution side claimed humans are descended from bats, but he keeps repeating the false claim that three have done so.That's not honest debating--that's trolling, and lying.That seems to be a part of an overall pattern for this poster.It would seem that some more substantial moderation might be in order.

Don't bother to promote Davidjay's latest, "Discuss the origins of EVOLUTION."He'll just use the new thread to spam and lecture, with no attempt to debate. He's certainly not here to learn anything from us!

Davidjay is off to a bad start with his new thread proposal: Absolutely wrong. Science is facts-and-theories. And theories explain laws. That's well over 150 years ago and the theory had evolved tremendously since then. But I suspect Davidjay has lots of cut-and-pastes from his website just ready to dump on us, thinking that if he can discredit Darwin or the origins of the theory he can make it all go away. (He can't) Which is one thing Davidjay doesn't do.If you won't send him packing, at least do some moderation to get him to conform to Forum Guidelines. Certainly don't reward him with another thread to spam his nonsense.

The last thing "evolutionists" need is to be lectured by a spamming and terminally-confused numerologist who is anti-science from start to finish.

And your habit of proposing, let us kindly say "questionable" topics, cut-and-pasted from elsewhere, then not staying around to defend them, reeks of spam. Only the proposer and admins can post to the Proposed Topic threads.Edited by Coyote, : No reason given.