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Topic: Elections are won in the primaries
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NoNukes
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Message 60 of 113 (821738)
10-11-2017 5:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 59 by RAZD 10-11-2017 3:01 PM
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Re: Voting for republicans options in the primaries
You don't seem to get it. I am not going to vote for or pursue pushing a Republican who is going to act with other Republicans on some of the issues that you find tolerable. Because I find those positions intolerable. Your mileage may vary.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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NoNukes
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Message 63 of 113 (821750)
10-11-2017 7:39 PM
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Reply to: Message 62 by DC85 10-11-2017 5:59 PM
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Re: Voting for republicans options in the primaries
"Rather run a progressive in a Republican primary and you spoil the primary as you can win after the vote splits far right " I discussed with RAZD the baggage that comes with a Republican candidate. He seems to think that some of that baggage is acceptable. I agree in principle, but I don't agree with RAZD's take on what is acceptable. I barely trust the Democrats... Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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NoNukes
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Message 73 of 113 (821964)
10-16-2017 1:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 72 by RAZD 10-16-2017 8:02 AM
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Re: Texas ...
The strategy is to elect a progressive to Congress No that isn't what you are trying to do. Instead you are selling off a good chunk of progressive positions in the hope of electing someone less Republicany. And you believe you can find enough voters in a gerrymandered district to win without a runoff. The democrats running for office in your district must truly suck. For most of us, your plan isn't an answer.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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NoNukes
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Message 76 of 113 (821986)
10-17-2017 1:48 AM
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Reply to: Message 74 by RAZD 10-16-2017 2:30 PM
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Re: Texas ...
Curious how people are telling me what I mean, especially when it isn't true. You've already admitted to tolerating stuff I find intolerable. Your progressives aren't all that progressive.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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NoNukes
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Message 87 of 113 (822058)
10-18-2017 10:50 AM
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Reply to: Message 80 by RAZD 10-17-2017 10:24 AM
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Re: Texas ...
I would call that person a progressive republican for the purpose of the primary. I would never call that person you describe a progressive. The Republican party is all about not being progressive. Their platform is anything but progressive. You seem to think that being moderate on a few issues, issues which nearly every Democrat is on board with, means somebody worth my time. My situation is this. I live in a district where the Republicans cannot win. I don't get to vote in a Republican-stacked district because I don't live there. My current Congressman is good but not perfect, but I don't want him replaced by any Republican. Our two senators, on the other hand, are a piece of work. However, that is not for a lack of opposition. Their opponents were worthy folks who could have been elected if Democrats bothered to vote But in those stacked districts, the Republicans compete on who can be the most unliberal. People are actually voting against universal health care and expanding the minimum wage even though they are as poor as dirt. Your strategy is to try to sneak a "progressive" by folks who apparently consider real liberals "commies."
Again you are blinding yourself, Or perhaps, you've gotten used to your own off-key singing.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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NoNukes
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Message 96 of 113 (822103)
10-19-2017 9:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 92 by DC85 10-19-2017 8:27 AM
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Re: Texas ...
You are aware that at one time the Republicans WERE the progressive party, right? How do you suppose the change happened? Of course, I know that. But, those times are long gone. Try pulling up the state Republican party platform in any red state.
People in poverty in Alabama don't want tax cuts for the wealthy And yet they vote for people who push that position all of the time, perhaps because they are getting other stuff they want, but I would not. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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NoNukes
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Message 99 of 113 (822112)
10-19-2017 12:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 97 by DC85 10-19-2017 10:26 AM
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Re: Texas ...
The BIG mistake Democrats in the south make is believing they need to be "moderate" on economics when no such voters exist While I agree with you that it is a mistake for Democrats, you are underestimating the job that has been done in demonizing liberal economics. Large swaths of the population are wage earners and wage payers who accept the idea that a living wage is socialism and won't vote for it.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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