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granpa
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Message 991 of 997 (821602)
10-09-2017 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 990 by RAZD
10-09-2017 5:11 PM


Re: Granpa whine -- not proposed topic
Your story keeps changing and your excuses keep getting thinner and thinner. Now you insult me by calling me a whiner.

In Truth you've given up trying to rationalize your behavior and now you're just throwing me to the trolls in the hope that I will get angry and say something bitter that you can then use as an excuse to give me banned. Good luck with that.

By the way this is exactly the result that I expected all along.

Edited by granpa, : No reason given.

Edited by granpa, : No reason given.


Why BELIEVE that it will rain today when you can KNOW that it might rain today. Belief is unnecessary and illogical.

A moral person is a person that understands that the universe does not revolve around their ego.

A civilized society is a society whose laws do not revolve around any one person or group of people.
The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.


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granpa
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Message 992 of 997 (821603)
10-09-2017 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 990 by RAZD
10-09-2017 5:11 PM


Re: Granpa whine -- not proposed topic
The whole point of the proposed threads forum is so you can point out any issues you might have with that post before it gets sent to regular discussion. If you had any issues with my post you should have simply pointed them out and giving me a chance to rectify it. The fact that you didn't do so clearly reveals your true motives

Edited by granpa, : No reason given.


Why BELIEVE that it will rain today when you can KNOW that it might rain today. Belief is unnecessary and illogical.

A moral person is a person that understands that the universe does not revolve around their ego.

A civilized society is a society whose laws do not revolve around any one person or group of people.
The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.


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Message 993 of 997 (821607)
10-09-2017 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 992 by granpa
10-09-2017 8:50 PM


Re: Granpa whine -- not proposed topic
And your habit of proposing, let us kindly say "questionable" topics, cut-and-pasted from elsewhere, then not staying around to defend them, reeks of spam.

If you had any issues with my post you should have simply pointed them out and giving me a chance to rectify it.

Only the proposer and admins can post to the Proposed Topic threads.

Edited by Coyote, : No reason given.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 994 of 997 (821608)
10-09-2017 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 992 by granpa
10-09-2017 8:50 PM


Re: Granpa whine -- not proposed topic
"The whole point of the proposed threads forum is so you can point out any issues you might have with that post before it gets sent to regular discussion."

Only the moderator is allowed to respond to thread proposals in that forum.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up theyre not going to shoot me. This is what Im thinking theyre not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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dronestar
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Message 995 of 997 (822420)
10-24-2017 3:26 PM


Hey Percy,

Percy writes:

I don't really know you, and I don't recall ever having a discussion with you, and I don't recall ever interacting with you in an administrative capacity, . . .

1. Actually you previously and similarly admonished me about using examples of western crimes against third world nations. Seems to be a repeating irritant to you.

2. One of the forum rules is to argue the topic, not the person:

Percy writes:

I think you're still forgetting to take your meds.


That type of post may not foment respectful responses. It would be helpful if you model the type of behavior you want others to copy.

3.

Percy writes:

If you'd like to engage in constructive discussion of the topic of this thread (The Trump Presidency) then I think that'd be great,

The topic has veered off-topic to A valid reason to vote 3rd Party before I posted anything. You yourself have participated in this off-topic discussion for several dozen posts.

4.

Percy writes:

You seem very interested in Clinton as a war criminal, so the best way to pursue discussing it would be to open a new thread. Anyone can open a thread in the Coffee House forum. You don't have to propose it first.

Ive opened many new threads in the past, but thanks for the reminder. Good advice for EVERYbody.

5.

Percy writes:

But let me add that spamming a thread, even your own thread, with the kinds of photos you've been posting thus far for the reasons you have will bring administrative action.

Percy writes:

but if you continue to spam the thread in the way that you have then I will follow the normal administrative procedures for such situations.

a. Precedent: Ive been posting these type of photos, that ARE supportive evidence, for a long time on the forum (years?). Curiously, you only started to object when I was specifically debating you.

b. Spamming?

quote:
spamming is the use of electronic messaging systems to send an unsolicited message (spam), especially advertising, as well as sending messages repeatedly on the same site. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamming

It doesnt seem my inclusion of photos or cartoons that support my argument can be called spamming. The photos were not advertisements, and each of my posts included new material, as opposed to some variation of please take your medications. Per the forums guidelines we are encouraged to provide evidence for our arguments. Perhaps you are against me presenting TOO much evidence? That would be a strange request in a a debate forum, but perhaps the forum has some technical limitation that I am not aware. If not, then Im confused. It seems you have a personal definition of spamming that I am not familiar with, please provide. Be specific or else I risk running against the forums whims again.

6.

Percy writes:

I want EvC Forum to remain a decent place.

a. Repeatedly posting I think you're still forgetting to take your meds may not help create a respectful environment for a decent place. It would be helpful if you model the type of behavior you want others to copy.

b. And since the topics are often about the ugliness of the world, lifes crudity, grown-up debates, etc., . . . then, without arbitrary censorship, how will you maintain the forum to be a decent place AND still discuss the worlds adult matters? If possible, please be specific.

7.

Percy writes:

Ill be downsizing the photos from your posts in this thread soon.

You originally wrote that you would be DELETING portions of my posts. Thank you for seeing that the photos are not mere Spam, whatever that term may now mean, and that they do indeed have value, and thank you for self-correcting your action. We both agree that credible charges of censorship would devalue the forum.

8. Lastly, just a gentle reminder, . . . you do know it is bad form to be both participant and moderator in the same thread, especially while in the middle of a debate. Asking a co-moderator to assist would seem to be a more even-handed action.

Thank you for your time.

Edited by dronestar, : clarity


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Message 996 of 997 (822437)
10-24-2017 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 995 by dronestar
10-24-2017 3:26 PM


dronestar writes:

8. Lastly, just a gentle reminder, . . . you do know it is bad form to be both participant and moderator in the same thread, especially while in the middle of a debate. Asking a co-moderator to assist would seem to be a more even-handed action.

I said I would follow standard administrative procedures. For me as a participant to become a moderator entails recusing myself from discussion in the thread for two days before taking over moderation.

a. Precedent: Ive been posting these type of photos, that ARE supportive evidence, for a long time on the forum (years?). Curiously, you only started to object when I was specifically debating you.

Obviously one person can't read everything posted to the forum, and this is the first time I've seen a post from you with such photos. Please stop.

The topic has veered off-topic to A valid reason to vote 3rd Party before I posted anything. You yourself have participated in this off-topic discussion for several dozen posts.

Topic diversions are not discouraged unless they interfere with the main topic.

a. Repeatedly posting I think you're still forgetting to take your meds may not help create a respectful environment for a decent place. It would be helpful if you model the type of behavior you want others to copy.

Well, then, if both of us behave respectfully and work toward making this a decent place then there shouldn't be any problem, should there.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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Adminnemooseus
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Message 997 of 997 (822438)
10-24-2017 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 995 by dronestar
10-24-2017 3:26 PM


Hysterical Hillary Hater?
I've just realized that the other evcforum.net poster you are reminding me of is Dennis Markuze - That's not a good thing.

But feel free to start a new "Coffee House" topic to air your Hillary perspective.

Adminnemooseus

ps - For the record, Dennis's most recent postings were via the superuniverse ID.


Or something like that.

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