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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1
starman
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Message 617 of 1498 (823134)
11-06-2017 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 611 by jar
11-06-2017 9:09 AM


Re: Starman fails again to address the issues or provide evidence.
I already explained that no such fossils should exist, because most life and man could not leave such remains probably in the former nature. To demand that there should be such evidence betrays an absence of comprehension of the issues or origins.

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starman
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Message 618 of 1498 (823135)
11-06-2017 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 608 by RAZD
11-06-2017 7:39 AM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
Firstly, Oklo shows nothing but an active imagination and propensity to make stuff up. They invented whatever was needed to fit the events and sites into their faity tale scenarios and assumed laws of the past. The magic dunking of the sites miles under the earth and resurfacing as needed are examples of bs run amok.
As for the halo business cute little claims you make there. Too bad you have no juice to back em up eh? You rattle off imaginary years based solely on your little imaginary same state past as if they had the least merit in reality. Then you claim the halos show us there was no change without so much as stopping to mention why! What a joke.

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Message 619 of 1498 (823136)
11-06-2017 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 609 by jar
11-06-2017 7:41 AM


Re: We have the evidence, we win!
The whole site is now underwater so yes, I guess it 'exists'. The issue is not whether there were isotopes that seem to resemble those from a modern nuclear reaction. The issue is what proof or support do you have to show it actually was? The long comical fabricated series of events in imaginary time do not do that.

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starman
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Message 624 of 1498 (823199)
11-07-2017 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 620 by jar
11-06-2017 1:21 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
Strawman, no one asked if the sites exist. Get real.

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starman
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Message 625 of 1498 (823200)
11-07-2017 4:10 PM
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11-06-2017 1:30 PM


Re: Starman fails again to address the issues or provide evidence.
Time wasting empty blather...devoid of content.

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starman
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Message 626 of 1498 (823201)
11-07-2017 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 622 by RAZD
11-06-2017 2:01 PM


Re: Starman fails again to address the issues or provide evidence.
quote:
You can count the rings that exist and that gives you a minimum age for the tree.
Not true unless the rings all grew IN this nature! Gong.
quote:
You can also overlap the rings with the techniques of dendrochronology to extend the age of the grove back over 8,000 years ago.
Not unless all rings grew in this present state! Gong!
/quote As you have already been told there is a living tree that was measured at 5,065 years old in 2012.[/quote] False. Rings only equal years or seasons as long as the tree was growing in the present nature! You are spinning your wheels here, missing the whole point.
quote:
There was an exact match of the climate patterns between the two chronologies for the 5,000 + period of overlap except for two instances when it was so cold year-round that the second chronology showed no ring and the original chronology showed very narrow rings.
Doesn't matter if the variations were within the day or week as they would have to be in the former nature.
quote:
What causes the appearance of old age if that is wrong -- how do you explain it.
Maybe write this down, you keep missing it...BECAUSE the rings were not all grown in this present state! The onus is on you to show cause and to provide supporting evidence for your claimed same nature existing in the far past on earth. In this you have failed miserably.

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starman
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Message 627 of 1498 (823202)
11-07-2017 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 623 by RAZD
11-06-2017 2:17 PM


Re: Oklo and Uranium Halos show an Old Earth
I read the Oklo fable many times and you can't support it. Give it up!
As for your halo thing..I don't believe you. You would have posted the great proof or point in a sentence or two here by now. You got nothing.

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starman
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Message 630 of 1498 (823213)
11-07-2017 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 628 by RAZD
11-07-2017 4:21 PM


Re: Starman fails again to address the issues or provide evidence.
My assertion is that science does not know the state of the past on earth. You help prove that assertion is absolutely true. Thanks for that.

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starman
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Message 631 of 1498 (823214)
11-07-2017 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 629 by jar
11-07-2017 4:23 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
Yes reactions happened at the sites. Why and when and how is the issue. Gong!

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starman
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Message 639 of 1498 (823344)
11-09-2017 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 632 by RAZD
11-07-2017 4:51 PM


Re: Starman fails again to address the issues or provide evidence.
Rings that grew in hours look similar to ones that grow in this state in say a year. Not sure what you thought you should see? Spell it out? As for your imaginary 36,000 years, show us the basis for that date? Radioactive decay? Overlapping rings from the former nature..?? Be clear.

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starman
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Message 640 of 1498 (823345)
11-09-2017 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 633 by RAZD
11-07-2017 5:01 PM


Re: Oklo and Uranium Halos show an Old Earth
No actual point on halos you can concisely post here eh? Let's face it, that is just another facet of your same nature in the past belief set. Different head...same monster. I have a one sword slays all, thankfully.

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starman
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Message 641 of 1498 (823347)
11-09-2017 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 635 by jar
11-07-2017 5:23 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
I have Oklo. You have religion and fables about Oklo. Yu failed to prove a same nature in the past and you may NOT use one in models for the past. Evermore.

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starman
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Message 642 of 1498 (823348)
11-09-2017 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 637 by RAZD
11-08-2017 3:51 PM


Re: Starman fails again
Maybe some poster will cite it so we can look at it one day. We wait.

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starman
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Message 644 of 1498 (823350)
11-09-2017 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 639 by starman
11-09-2017 12:30 PM


Re: Starman fails again to address the issues or provide evidence.
Nice dance skirting issues. Now show us HOW science knows!

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starman
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Message 645 of 1498 (823351)
11-09-2017 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 643 by Taq
11-09-2017 12:35 PM


Re: Starman fails again to address the issues or provide evidence.
What is made up is that the same nature existed where they grew slow like now. Prove it.

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