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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1
jar
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Message 620 of 1498 (823141)
11-06-2017 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 615 by starman
11-06-2017 1:00 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
starman writes:
I see no evidences presented.
Let those with eyes see.
The Oklo reactor exists. It is on this earth.
We have the evidence, we win, once again you are just a loser.

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jar
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Message 621 of 1498 (823142)
11-06-2017 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 617 by starman
11-06-2017 1:04 PM


Re: Starman fails again to address the issues or provide evidence.
starman writes:
I already explained that no such fossils should exist, because most life and man could not leave such remains probably in the former nature.
Once again you simply show your utter ignorance.
Once again, we have the evidence and you are simply a pathetic loser yet another time.
We have DNA evidence from humans that lived at the time of the imaginary Adam as well as from thousands of years before the Garden of Eden.
There is no evidence of any former nature; is is just another pathetic carny spiel by the snake oil creationists.
Most life did leave evidence and it is only the Biblical Kinds that failed to be able to leave remains.
We comprehend the issue of origins and that reality shows the Biblical creation tales are simply myths. Even the Bible show they are myths since the Bible Creation stories are mutually exclusive and contradictory. Even the Bible God characters in the stories describe two different critters.
You explained nothing and simply posted sophomoric nonsense and bullshit.

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jar
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Message 629 of 1498 (823204)
11-07-2017 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 624 by starman
11-07-2017 4:09 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
starman writes:
Strawman, no one asked if the sites exist. Get real.
Oklo exists, therefore it is evidence.
The decay products exist therefore they are evidence.
The decay products match those from nuclear reactors today, therefore the processes were the same when they were created as the processes are today.
Once again reality says your assertions and position and creationism and young earth are simply bullshit.
We have the evidence, we win.
Creationism is for losers.

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jar
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Message 635 of 1498 (823228)
11-07-2017 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 631 by starman
11-07-2017 4:37 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
starman writes:
Yes reactions happened at the sites. Why and when and how is the issue. Gong!
No, the issue was your stupid claim that we had no evidence that the processes were the same in the past as they are now.
We have Oklo. We win and you remain a loser.

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jar
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Message 650 of 1498 (823358)
11-09-2017 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 641 by starman
11-09-2017 12:34 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
Again, your utter dishonesty has no effect on reality.
The decay products found at Oklo are the same as the decay products found in modern reactors therefore the processes are the same and were the same.

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jar
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Message 651 of 1498 (823359)
11-09-2017 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 649 by Tangle
11-09-2017 12:41 PM


starman provides a perfect example to demonstrate how utterly bankrupt and dishonest Creationism and Biblical Christianity really are. If fools like starman did not already exist we would be reduced to creating pathetic example like the Chick Tracks.
We are blessed to have such a perfect example of idiocy.

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jar
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Message 662 of 1498 (823396)
11-09-2017 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 657 by starman
11-09-2017 4:08 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
starman writes:
So what? Obviously some sort of reaction happened. The missing isotopes you say were once there are needed in a same state reaction. The magic dunks and resurfacing is needed. Etc. You have no prof for any of it you just need it to be so.
Too funny. Listen, do you have a learning disability? Do you need to get a grown up to read the responses to you?
starman writes:
The missing isotopes you say were once there are needed in a same state reaction.
There are no missing isotopes. The fact that there are the same waste products as a modern reactor creates show it was a same state reaction.
We have the evidence, once again we win.
There was no magic dunks and resurfacing.
Once again, we have the evidence and so we win.
It really is so simply but thank you for playing and better luck next time.

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jar
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Message 740 of 1498 (827305)
01-22-2018 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 739 by creation
01-22-2018 9:58 AM


Reality
creation writes:
The proof is in the pudding. The models of creation science has offered are against the record God offered. Time to face the fact that different spirits are behind both.
All of the evidence shows that God had absolutely nothing to do with the content of Bible stories unless God is an ignorant liar.
Ignorance is behind the Biblical accounts, that's for sure; but ignorance can be cured and many today are far less ignorant than the authors of the Bible stories. Unfortunately that is not true for Creationists, the remain willfully ignorant.

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jar
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Message 748 of 1498 (827509)
01-26-2018 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 745 by creation
01-26-2018 4:02 PM


Re: Reality
creation writes:
Insults aside, calling God an ignorant liar is blasphemy. You allude to evidence we do not see posted.
If God is the author of the Bible then God is an ignorant liar. That is not something I'm saying, that is what the evidence shows.
Don't get your panties in a wad because the facts show that the Bible has two mutually exclusive creation tales with two mutually exclusive descriptions of the God and both of the tales are factually wrong.
The folk committing blasphemy are the willfully ignorant at best and in most cases simply dishonest conmen trying to sell the Bible as something other than the creation of man.
In the two creation myths the Gods are different, the means of creation are different, the order of creation is different and as I said, the order is factually wrong.

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jar
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Message 765 of 1498 (827628)
01-28-2018 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 764 by edge
01-28-2018 6:27 PM


posts like creation's are valuable
Fortunately the posts by creation are so completely devoid of evidence, reason, even basic Christian education that they stand as a monument to ignorance and deceit.
It is posts like those that help lead people out of the Christian Cult of Ignorance. Unfortunately in most cases it is posts like those from creation that lead people to totally abandon Christianity as little more than a foolish cult when in fact this posts only represent the most ignorant and dishonest Christian dogma.
You can still be a Christian without leaving your brain at the door.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
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Message 767 of 1498 (827641)
01-29-2018 6:47 AM
Reply to: Message 766 by edge
01-28-2018 9:27 PM


Re: posts like creation's are valuable
But there may be others that are interested in reality who will see the exchanges and so see a way out of the Christian Cult of Ignorance and Deceit. No one expects or even wants to change creation but rather allow others to see and compare the fantasy with reality.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
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Message 771 of 1498 (827658)
01-29-2018 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 768 by Phat
01-29-2018 8:04 AM


Re: posts like creation's are valuable
Phat writes:
Yes, but can you be a Christian while believing in a vague unknowable God?
Or are you more properly a Deist?
Stop and think Phat.
If someone is a registered member of a chapter of Shriners is that person a a Shriner?
If someone is a registered Republican is that person a a Republican?
I am a Christian despite what ANYONE might think.

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jar
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Message 775 of 1498 (827954)
02-06-2018 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 774 by Percy
02-06-2018 10:11 AM


Gotta fix the second verse.
I think he returned
To creationist sites,
To read what he could read.
And what he saw there
Was beyond belief,
And alternate facts abound.

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jar
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Message 1318 of 1498 (876992)
06-01-2020 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1317 by AZPaul3
06-01-2020 6:31 AM


Re: Your problem: no correlations should exist
A couple specifics that might help the kid learn would be:
The waste products at the Oklo Reactor match the waste products seen in modern reactors.
The reactions observed in distant stars match the reactions seen in our local sun.
I'm not sure the kid is capable of actually understanding but perhaps he might be capable of understanding that change leaves evidence. If things were different in the past we would see the evidence of such changes.
No such evidence has ever been found.

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