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Message 16 of 40 (822231)
10-21-2017 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by NoNukes
10-20-2017 5:49 PM


NoNukes writes:

What part of the Bible was not written by Jews?


The Bible was written in English by God.

Men were created in God's image and Jewish men need to be circumcised. Therefore, God is not circumcised. Therefore, God is not Jewish.

The Flood suggests that He's a Baptist.


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Message 17 of 40 (823507)
11-11-2017 12:15 PM
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More from N.P.R.
NPR had an article today (Veterans Day November 11th) on this new museum.

New Museum Invites Visitors To Engage With The Bible

Perhaps ringo can get sponsered privately to fund a Long John Silver Museum!


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Message 18 of 40 (823513)
11-11-2017 3:52 PM
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Re: More from N.P.R.
The presence of statues of "Mary" in the museum, as reported earlier on this thread, doesn't bode well for an accurate presentation of the Bible.
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Message 19 of 40 (823534)
11-12-2017 12:13 AM
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11-11-2017 3:52 PM


Re: More from N.P.R.
I think the board compromised a bit with both the wealthy Jewish and Catholic donors...but they got the donations needed to build the place.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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Message 20 of 40 (823536)
11-12-2017 6:04 AM
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11-12-2017 12:13 AM


Re: More from N.P.R.
Well since Jesus was a Jew and Roman Catholics are Christians and the Bible is a bunch of Jewish and Christian stories I'm not sure why anyone would think any compromise was needed.

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Message 21 of 40 (823550)
11-12-2017 1:48 PM
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11-12-2017 6:04 AM


Re: More from N.P.R.
But if they tried to have a display with the Mormon tablets on it, the museum would become simply a sacred studies institute, rather than an anthology of anthologies museum.

One could argue that Mormons are not Judeo-Christian.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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jar
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Message 22 of 40 (823562)
11-12-2017 4:16 PM
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11-12-2017 1:48 PM


Re: More from N.P.R.
Phat writes:

One could argue that Mormons are not Judeo-Christian.

I'm not sure anyone could actually argue that Mormons are not Judeo-Christian but certainly they could make that assertion.

To argue that position you would need evidence.


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Message 23 of 40 (823563)
11-12-2017 4:24 PM
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11-12-2017 1:48 PM


Re: More from N.P.R.
quote:

One could argue that Mormons are not Judeo-Christian.

The Mormon Church could be viewed as a heretical Christian Church. While I prefer to think of it as a new religion it was derived from Christianity as Christianity was derived from Judaism.

You might do better to point out that the Mormon scriptures are not included in the Bible.


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Message 24 of 40 (823583)
11-13-2017 11:10 AM
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10-18-2017 4:34 AM


What's your take on it?

I think it looks cool. I like that it's really high-tech and huge.

It doesn't bother me that Jesus isn't involved too much.

Next time I'm in DC I'll go check it out.


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Message 25 of 40 (823599)
11-13-2017 1:22 PM
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11-12-2017 1:48 PM


Re: More from N.P.R.
"One could argue that Mormons are not Judeo-Christian"

There are folks who insist that Catholics are not Christian, which I assume would be a hurdle you have to meet before being considered "Judeo-Christian". I suppose that some folks will say just about anthing. What do you say about Mormons, Phat?


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Message 26 of 40 (823633)
11-14-2017 5:50 PM
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11-13-2017 1:22 PM


Re: More from N.P.R.
NoNukes writes:


There are folks who insist that Catholics are not Christian, which I assume would be a hurdle you have to meet before being considered "Judeo-Christian". I suppose that some folks will say just about anthing. What do you say about Mormons, Phat?

The proprietors of the Bible Museum could also start Jehovah's Witness, Rastafarian, and Moony wings and then watch heads explode across the country.


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Message 27 of 40 (823638)
11-14-2017 7:39 PM
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11-12-2017 4:16 PM


Re: More from N.P.R.
jar writes:

I'm not sure anyone could actually argue that Mormons are not Judeo-Christian but certainly they could make that assertion.

To argue that position you would need evidence.

This gets back to our discussion on what is a true Christian. You had a supportable argument indicating that anyone could claim the title and that no group that claimed the title could be excluded. Faith would argue that this itself is evidence of a war between ideologies, absolute truth vs relativism, good vs evil.

I would say that the war is real, but cannot really make any absolute truth statements regarding such a war without evidence. Only at EvC is evidence the barrier to having an unchallenged and absolute belief. It makes it hard to have any argument whatsoever. In order to reduce my cognitive dissonance, I can only tell myself that my beliefs are a sacred issue between God and myself and that I cannot impress others at this time.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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Message 28 of 40 (823639)
11-14-2017 7:46 PM
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Re: More from N.P.R.
Phat writes:

You had a supportable argument indicating that anyone could claim the title and that no group that claimed the title could be excluded. Faith would argue that this itself is evidence of a war between ideologies, absolute truth vs relativism, good vs evil.

But one position can be supported by reality and evidence while there is no evidence of a war between ideologies, absolute truth vs relativism, good vs evil.


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Message 29 of 40 (823658)
11-15-2017 5:23 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by New Cat's Eye
11-13-2017 11:10 AM


Hope you're not planning on paying the entrance fees and make charlatans richer...Wait for the free entrance days.

According to plans (and booked flights!) I should be in DC on January 15. Would check it out from the outside unless they allow me in for free.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.


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Message 30 of 40 (823674)
11-15-2017 12:16 PM
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11-15-2017 5:23 AM


Hope you're not planning on paying the entrance fees and make charlatans richer...

Oh I don't care about that. It looks cool - I'd pay to see it.

Wait for the free entrance days.

Well, if I was lucky enough to have a free entrance day coordinate with when I'd be in DC, then I'd take advantage of that.


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