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Author Topic:   Genesis "kinds" may be Nested Hierarchies.
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Message 11 of 218 (821155)
10-03-2017 10:41 AM


and like all Creationists
And like all Creationists forgets that the Genesis myths list what was created and reality shows that not a single thing listed as being created in the beginning shows up in the reality called the first few hundred million years or more since the creation of the Earth.

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Message 35 of 218 (822223)
10-21-2017 7:04 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Dredge
10-20-2017 9:06 PM


ignorant Gods often get it wrong.
Which is simply additional evidence that God got it wrong in both Genesis 1 & 2. Ignorant God.
None of the kinds mentioned in the Bible existed at the beginning.

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Message 39 of 218 (822251)
10-21-2017 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Dredge
10-21-2017 8:42 PM


Too funny.
You really use something like Discovery Institute as though it had anything to do with science?
Sheesh. That explains a lot!

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Message 42 of 218 (822255)
10-21-2017 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Dredge
10-21-2017 8:47 PM


Re: Dredge: yes? Nested Hierarchies = kinds = clades
See, you believe crap like that has any meaning; ignorance writ large. E-coli is not just one organism but one of the most diverse examples of bacteria out there with lots of different strains.
What that so called experiment actually shows is about like saying mammals reproduce mammals or plants reproduce plants.
Remember, Creationists, particular those who claim to be scientists are counting on your ignorance so you don't simply laugh out loud when they are fund raising.

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Message 44 of 218 (822260)
10-21-2017 9:24 PM
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10-21-2017 9:15 PM


Re: Dredge: yes? Nested Hierarchies = kinds = clades
Dredge writes:
You assume that bacteria can evolve into something that is not bacteria but something more functionally complex. But what evidence is there that that can happen?
Too funny.
You really can't do anything but the Gish Gallop can you?
There is a whole bunch of threads that cover the evidence that it can and in fact did happen. We have the fossils so we win. Once there was nothing living on Earth more complex than single celled organisms.
Now there are things more complex than single celled organisms.
So far the ONLY explanation is that evolution happened and the Theory of Evolution explains how it happened.
Stop listening to the liars known as Creationists.

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Message 47 of 218 (822266)
10-21-2017 9:53 PM
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10-21-2017 9:30 PM


basic. learn the basics.
Dredge writes:
"Everybody knows that organisms get better as they evolve.
No, only the truly ignorant or dishonest might "know that" but the rest of us understand that has not been true for millions, maybe billions of years and all the evidence shows that things do not always get better. In fact, almost all life forms have failed and no longer even exist instead of continuing to get better.

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Message 70 of 218 (822531)
10-27-2017 6:45 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by Dredge
10-26-2017 11:38 PM


Once again reality shows you are simply wrong. While it's possible, barely possible, that you are really just ignorant that is becoming increasingly unlikely.
Both the Fact of Evolution as well as the fact that the Theory of Evolution is the only explanation that has ever been presented or tested are both supported by the majority of the recognized Christian faiths. Only the Christian Cult of Ignorance & Dishonesty deny those two facts.

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Message 77 of 218 (822554)
10-27-2017 11:55 AM
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10-27-2017 11:49 AM


The Eggs have it
And, of course, humans hatch from eggs as well. It's funny but the egg in reproduction is pretty common among all reptiles and mammals and arachnids and amphibians and snakes and fish and ...

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Message 96 of 218 (823659)
11-15-2017 7:02 AM
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11-15-2017 2:44 AM


Dredge writes:
It is a fact that all life on earth evolved from unicellular organisms?
It is a fact that ALL of the evidence ever found shows that life on Earth began as unicellular organisms.
Based on the fact that the evidence shows the Biblical Creation stories are factually wrong, it is also a reasonable conclusion that what ALL of the evidence shows is what actually happened.

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Message 107 of 218 (824296)
11-26-2017 6:47 AM
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11-26-2017 6:44 AM


Dredge writes:
Taq writes:
You have yet to say a right thing about phylogenetics, so what does that tell you?
... that I'm stupid and ignorant?
No, it says that you are willfully ignorant; ignorant by choice at best but most likely simply dishonest.

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Message 132 of 218 (824454)
11-29-2017 6:55 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by RAZD
11-29-2017 12:40 AM


Re: More nested hierarchies, homologies and analogies
And in fact there is also a genus of Flying Snakes.
Even squirrels can fly.
Yet all of the examples still fit neatly into the nested hierarchy using every technology we have ever developed.
There is much Dredge could learn if Dredge were willing to learn.

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Message 137 of 218 (824537)
11-30-2017 8:20 AM
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11-30-2017 7:44 AM


Re: Nebraska man, really?
And it was not the Christian Cult of Ignorance that determined that it was not a primate but rather Science.

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Message 153 of 218 (824879)
12-04-2017 4:25 PM
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12-04-2017 4:21 PM


Re: platypus nested hierarchy
And, of course, there are transitional cat and dog fossils. Even Dredge is likely to have heard of some of them if only from watching the Ice Age movies.

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Message 163 of 218 (824963)
12-05-2017 4:39 PM
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12-05-2017 4:02 PM


But if there were such critters the evidence would show the wings were modified ribs, which fits right in with everything we have ever learned. Evolution is a series of modifications and re-purposing pieces parts that already exist. Birds wings are modified limbs. Whale flippers are modified limbs. The inner ear bones are modified jaw parts.
All life begins as a single cell.
The issue is creationists are so ignorant that they have no idea of what the process of evolution explained by the Theory of Evolution shows and says.
And they want to stay ignorant.

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Message 167 of 218 (825265)
12-10-2017 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Dredge
12-10-2017 9:11 PM


The Hobbit has a far better description of a dragon, certainly one more believable then thinking Job is talking of a dragon.

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