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Phat Member  Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
jar writes: Of course, the possibility may exist that GOD resists our attempts to detect Her. So the most likely outcome is just that, people propose a god and after testing the response will be, "Nope, that god don't hunt."Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith 
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
JBL,Long Ago Member writes: This guy actually made sense! I agree with his premise. I'm saying that if it is true that something cannot come from nothing (and so far I am unfamiliar with anything that says it can) then since something now exists, this requires that something always has existed. The key word here is "always." Because if there were ever a time when there was nothing, and something cannot come from nothing, then there would still only be nothing. A singularity, if it once was, had to have always been. God, if God exists always existed. There is no logical way that something came from nothing.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
There is a lot to debate here, but I'm tired so I will start only with this one:
All of the evidence shows that this universe came into existence a little over 14 billion years ago. So how did the substance that made up the universe after the Big Bang come into existence? Before that this universe simply did not exist. If the answer is spontaneous creation, the solution existed before the explosion, if only in the form of a thought---Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
NN writes: Ok, for the sake of argument I will state that I entertain his premise. It fits with my presuppositions. Technically I suppose I shouldn't accept it yet. If you accept an unproven premise, then you can believe anything.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Sounds rather Pantheistic to me. The universe created itself out of nothing over time? What was before the singularity?
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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