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Tangle
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Message 102 of 135 (824837)
12-04-2017 9:41 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by xongsmith
12-04-2017 2:11 AM


Re: What someone gets vs what they earn vs what they are worth
xongsmith writes:
While this unfortunately still true, we can grow out of being a country run by assholes.
The rest of the developed world is desperate for this to happen. But we fear the worst - at least for a while.

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Message 104 of 135 (824841)
12-04-2017 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by ringo
12-04-2017 10:42 AM


Re: What someone gets vs what they earn vs what they are worth
ringo writes:
You could have just agreed with me from the start.
But then I'd have been wrong too.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 108 of 135 (824853)
12-04-2017 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by ringo
12-04-2017 10:48 AM


Re: What someone gets vs what they earn vs what they are worth
ringo writes:
Since you're (now) saying the same thing I said, no.
I said
People will tell you all sorts of things about being prepared to spend a bit more for great service but the majority will then go out and buy the cheapest.
I
You said
If that was true, there wouldn't be anybody providing better customer service.
In some markets and for some customers it will make sense to offer great customer service because some people will pay the extra for it. But most of the time they won't. Your simple generalisation is factually and logically wrong.
There's a classic case here in the UK where the cheap and horrible Ryan Air do disgraceful things to their customers which they bitterly complain about. But they just go back and buy another seat anyway because they're dirt cheap. Michael O'Leary has changed how all the other airlines work - for the worse - but it is at least cheap. A couple of his quotes on customer service:
On apologies: Are we going to say sorry for our lack of customer service? Absolutely not.
On Ryanair’s image: One of the weaknesses of the company now is it is a bit cheap and cheerful and overly nasty, and that reflects my personality.
His massacre of customer service has made him very rich. RAZD will love this one
On beginning a press conference to announce the annual results: I’m here with Howard Miller and Michael Cawley, our two deputy chief executives. But they’re presently making love in the gentleman’s toilets, such is their excitement at today’s results.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 110 of 135 (824858)
12-04-2017 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by ringo
12-04-2017 11:28 AM


Re: What someone gets vs what they earn vs what they are worth
ringo writes:
And you agreed that there are businesses providing better customer service. That's all I'm saying.
Sky is blue, water is wet.....

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 114 of 135 (824866)
12-04-2017 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by ringo
12-04-2017 11:49 AM


Re: What someone gets vs what they earn vs what they are worth
ringo writes:
Indeed, so you can stop pretending that I'm wrong.
This..
quote:
If that was true [that the majority will buy the cheapest product or service], there wouldn't be anybody providing better customer service.
  —ringo
...is wrong. But I'm done, the sky is now black.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 127 of 135 (825009)
12-06-2017 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by RAZD
12-06-2017 11:59 AM


Re: What if the owners or shareholders are the workers?
RAZD writes:
Try me.
Posts crossed, there's a answer in your other thread on this.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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