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Phat Member  Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
in defense of Faith, I would never accuse her of willfully lying...her internal cop would never allow that.
In which case she is thus unaware of the implications of her response.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith 
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Faith writes: This is how I was taught in the Christianity I embraced in my early thirties. here at EvC, we discussed an alternative...that nobody was damned, all were chosen, and that we would be weighed according to what we did versus what we could have done. (works) God doesn't choose us because of anything in us that deserves being chosen. This is just another way of saying we are saved by grace through faith, not of our own works, and not because of anything in ourselves "lest any man should boast." He can make a Son of God out of anyone.That doesn't mean He doesn't have reasons for His choices, just not reasons we could ascribe to anything good in ourselves. I'm still not sure what I believe among these competing options.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
jar writes: Remember that God is represented inconsistently, contradictory, evolutionary and variably in scripture. There is no "God of Scripture" in the Bible. There are many different representations of God in the Bible; some nice, many vile, each the god the writer created as a part of a singular story. At least Calvin presented a complete idea of God. From what you say, there is no consensus nor agreement on who or what God is. Traditionally, Christians reconcile this inconsistency through the person of Jesus Christ. One side basically says that God Himself has clearly told us who He is through scripture. The other side challenges scripture and shows an inconsistency. Will there ever be consensus among anyone?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Yes, but your point of view has rejected all forms of unevidenced belief.
You have no fear betting on science, but science can only work with concepts that have presentable evidence. Science itself cant provide any comfort of itself being an answer. And what it all boils down to is faith in humanity. I'm not convinced humanity will ever save itself.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
If you do something because it needs to be done, it makes the world just a little better, it helps someone else, if you do it just because it was the right thing to do ... Hallelujah. You got it. You know what Jesus message really was. But according to you, we already learned that message when we discovered the knowledge of right and wrong. Any old teacher could have shown us that. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
LNA writes: Who gets to define what is and is not authentic? The Gospel of Thomas has Jesus telling people to go to James the Just for understanding of the proper or real teachings. It has to do with authentic religion. It is not a matter of going back in History. What is and is not authentic are being debated to this very day. In conclusion, there is no one teaching that can be labeled as authentic except in a personal sense of acceptance.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Granted you are likely right. my question is why you are fascinated with the type of study (and googling) that you do. If modern Christianity is a watered down version of the original and if the original is likely extinct, what do you hope to learn and/or share with others regarding it all?
Do you consider yourself a Christian and...if so...which type?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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