Faith said:
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She had been a vegetarian before all this and dairy had been a big part of her diet. She didn't completely get rid of meat, had some organic chicken, also organic eggs.
Granny Magada then said:
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That makes no sense. If she was vegetarian, she could hardly have been eating chicken.
Then the very next immediate quote of Faith, by Granny Magada was:
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Vitamin D, exercise, and replaced all cleaning products with "green" products,
Granny Magada responded:
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How much vitamin D? In what form? How often?
Roman Catholics apparently don't consider fish or chicken to be "meat". (I think there is a religious holiday they have where this definition of "meat" is very clear, if one wants to research, but I am wondering why I can't find enough interest to look into it YET myself. I have known of this issue for decades). It is pretty bull-crapish to me, but I despise Catholics massively on the meat issue (see bottom of my post for an example) which puts me in a small minority thus my opinion seems worthless.
But there does seem to be something of a "flexitarian" version of vegetarianism that allows fish to be eaten.
There are two kinds of vegetarians:
1 Those who are vegetarian for health reasons.
2 Those who are vegetarian for moral and/or spiritual reasons.
There tends to be "flexitarian" type among both groups, but group number 1 can most easily be flexible (As health is the lone reason for a restrictive diet, in group 1, and since fish can help with certain deficiencies vegetarians suffer from, then it will be very advantageous to eat fish).
I am only flexible on supplement issues (I have no choice but to take B-12 supplements from animal sources, because it seems that there is no plant based source for this vitally important vitamin). Otherwise I eat no meat, except I eat cheese which uses enzymes (from animals) to harden the product, though I have always planned on only getting vegetarian cheese eventually.
I also find myself using Vitamin D 3 supplements, though I plan on looking more into D 2 which is from plant sources.
I don't want to eat foods that cause animals to suffer (milk, cheese, and eggs do cause such suffering & killing, for various reasons, plus milk is fortified with vitamins that, I would think, come from killed-animal sources), and eventually I might stop eating milk and cheese unless it is vegetarian and from animals that are proven to be free of suffering. Same with eggs.
Those who eat for health reasons, will easily find health reasons to eat "white meat".
But the issue of chicken not being "meat" is a Catholic thing, and I think uniquely so.
Now the separate issue.
EXAMPLES OF ROMAN CATHOLIC (and Protestant) CULTURE CAUSING SURFFERING.
(One hardly knows where to begin)
Example 1 was an example I just heard of today from a retired U.S. military service man (he is honest and doesn't make up stories).
I was told that the Philippines used to have a military base (until a volcano went off in the 1990s and caused the base to be in an unsuitable location, which led to the lease expiring in 1999)in Subic Bay, which was very close to Olongapo (a "modern" city in the nation, which was on the other side of the bay) in Zambales.
He was based there from 1979 to 1982, and the troops would always be running around in Olongapo.
He went to an actual Pizza Hut and it had "Sweet and Sour Cat Pizza".
Bad enough?
It gets much worse.
The cats were hung upside down by their feet, while in a skinned-alive (and screaming the whole time)state, AND kept moist for four hours, so the meat would taste "sweeter".
He said that the meat marketplaces were full of upside down cats screaming in pain, the noise was constant and unavoidable to notice. The cats would have their eyes almost popping out and some would give up screaming out of shear exhaustion (only their mouths would be wide open while upside down).
Evil to anybody but the very sick.
EXAMPLE 2
(I just read about this in the New York Time this year)
Christians in Indonesia like to eat dogs, and the method of slaughter is either clubbing (a timeless "Christian" practice of killing animals the world over, though the NYT didn't mention this fact) or strangulation.
A Christian business owner, in Jakarta, pays $15 to purchase a dog, then has his employees club them to death, so he can sell the meat for $2 a pound, which makes it the cheapest meat.
The article points out that even some Muslims eat dogs, though it is mostly Christians who do so.
(Yes I do wish those two nations were still Hindu, as it seems to be a religion that has generally something of a "spirit" of consciousness - among followers - when it comes to issues of life, pain, and suffering. Though it depends on the time period as well as the place.)
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